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    Can I update the wii once I install wiikey 2?

    Can I update the wii once I install the wiikey 2?

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    Sure you can. Just make sure you only update with games within your own region. i.e. pal for pal wii's and NTSC for NTSC wii's.

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    Us Wii key2 Newbie questions about wii system updates

    New to forum here.
    I've looked for a definitive answer, but I'm lost on Wii jargon just now, so please forgive my seemingly obvious questions.

    Recent purchase of Wii USA
    -I assume it's called NTSC-U yes?

    Ordered a Wii key 2 solder kind of chip (installed chips in XBOX and PS2 before)

    Current software version Wii 3.4U

    Serial LU370091035
    Model RVL-001(USA)

    With no chip installed, the Wii wants to perform a system update to a version number unknown to me at this time which got me thinking...

    Once the chip is installed, will it be safe to allow subsequent system updates to the Wii, or are these updates really not necessary anyway, or are they forced like on the PS3 if connect to internet?

    I read something about problems updating certain games and only playing games intended for a certain region. Would this mean I better only play games NTSC-U?

    In other words: What are the ways one might brick a Wii after a mod chip is installed?

    I don't expect any problems actually installing the chip, unless there is some epoxy to deal with.

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    Ok, I've been reading for a week or two and here's what I've figured out. Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong. With a mod-chip installed, there is nothing wrong with updating. If you only update using the settings menu (online update) you'll always be fine.

    The problem lies in the fact that the games ship with the latest update on the disc. I.E. brand new games have a 3.4 loader and will update if you click yes. This is also acceptable for you as long as the game is an NTSC(U) game. However, if you burn a PAL game (europe), it will have the european firmware on the DVD, putting an out of region firmware on your wii will brick/semi-brick it. There are programs that remove updates from the ISO or block the update, but I believe this is still somewhat risky.

    Someone correct me if this is a bad gouge.

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    Nice! That definatly cleared it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beethovian View Post
    Recent purchase of Wii USA
    -I assume it's called NTSC-U yes?
    Correct.

    U = United States / North America
    E = Europe
    J = Japan


    Quote Originally Posted by Beethovian View Post
    Ordered a Wii key 2 solder kind of chip (installed chips in XBOX and PS2 before)

    Current software version Wii 3.4U

    Serial LU370091035
    Model RVL-001(USA)

    With no chip installed, the Wii wants to perform a system update to a version number unknown to me at this time which got me thinking...
    I have no idea what it wants you to update. You're already at 3.4U, the highest firmware to date.

    Did a game trigger the update call? (Need For Speed Underground, Animal Crossing, etc?)


    Quote Originally Posted by Beethovian View Post
    Once the chip is installed, will it be safe to allow subsequent system updates to the Wii, or are these updates really not necessary anyway, or are they forced like on the PS3 if connect to internet?
    You can update all you want, but there's no telling what the update will do to your current setup.

    The 3.3U nuked custom .Wad intalls. (.WAD's are the channels seen on the OS / dashboard)
    The 3.3U also started detecting drive controller alterations on some machines.
    The 3.4U user agreement had a blurb about Nintendo not requiring user permission for future firmware updates. You can turn on your system one morning and have a completely different firmware without your knowing.

    The updates are not forced unless you want to play a game that requires it. With that said, you never know if a game truly needs an update unless you rip it out. WiiBrickBlocker is a utility that will remove a game update from a .ISO file image. The disc is still bootable becuase WiiBrickBlocker retains the file structure, but makes the backup safe to play without fears of updates.


    Quote Originally Posted by Beethovian View Post
    I read something about problems updating certain games and only playing games intended for a certain region. Would this mean I better only play games NTSC-U?
    To be super safe, NTSC-U only. You can play NTSC-J titles, but do not install an update from that region. Clean the .ISO with WiiBrickBlocker first.


    Quote Originally Posted by Beethovian View Post
    In other words: What are the ways one might brick a Wii after a mod chip is installed?
    Few ways ...

    1. Again, .wad files are the channels installed into the OS / dashboard. People have been taking Virtual Console titles, such as the SNES Kirby, and "injecting" their own roms into it's structure. If you install a rom "injected" .wad, you run the risk of bricking the machine. Bad injections will lock up your machine. Be sure to know what you're downloading and read user feedback on the file.

    2. Update the console with a firmware outside of your region code.



    With the WiiKey2, there is a built in update blocker on the chip. Head to the official website, download the .ISO, burn it, and run it after installation. After the chip's firmware has been updated, you'll have access to the configuration menu.

    When your chip's firmware has been updated and you're configured, run an ORIGINAL NTSC-U title to set the system's region code properly.

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    I doubt I'll be doing any injections and stuff - all greek to me. I will be playing backups of mostly kid games. I'll learn more from you folks in time. Thanks for clear responses..more are always welcome.

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