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    Wiikey 2: Reads no original, version updater, backups

    I hope somebody can help me to solve the problem. I'll try to explain it as good as possible. Before typing this I searched this forum and the hole internet. I found some similair problems in other topics and tried their solutions (coming later on it), but nothing results in a normal or modded Wii.

    I have a Wii bought in December (Europe) and updated to 3.4 Europe (my bad). It has a D2E security chip with epoxy around it, covering point B,C and G. With some paint stripper I securely removed the epoxy from the necessary points (took me 2 days). After that I tested the Wii opened and it was still working fine (original DVD of course). Last evening I soldered the Wiikey 2 (yellow) to the 6 necessary points (A,B,C,G,3.3V,GND). That went pretty good and everything looks good connected. To Wiikey 2 has been placed (see pictures) in the middle.
    After soldering I connected to Wii (opened), pretty convinced it was going to work, to the normal wii cables.

    The Wii went normally on, sluprs the disk normal in but during the dvd spin-up a lot of electronic beeps sounded together with a few seperated mechanical clicks. When looking at the dvd during spin-up it makes around two or three slow rounds, but than stops (the beeps and clicks too). When looking from a dark room you can see the laser dot through the dvd when spinning. From this view I can conclude the laser accelerates nearly or against the drive motor and result in a click.

    What i've tried so far but didn't work was:
    - Putted two layers of papar between the wiikey 2 and the underlying metal. I red this could solve the problem
    - Dismanteld the upper metal case from the drive, cleaned the laser and moved the laser up and downwards. The laser was moving with a bit of force, but smoothly.
    - Checked for loose screws or any other material in the laser chamber.
    - Cutted the Wiikey 3.3V power cable
    - Cutted the Wiikey GRD cable

    So even after removing the power and ground to the Wiikey 2 will still not read originals (and backups duhh).

    I included some pictures and a youtube video of my wii. I hope somebody could identify these beeps and clicks for a solutions!

    Hopefully my dvd drive isn't bricked/broken.

    Youtube video (turn speakers on for beeps and clicks)

    [ame="http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=kNPEO-U7xDc"]http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=kNPEO-U7xDc[/ame]

    Pictures (sorry for the loading times):

    Overview


    3.3V power (yellow-black) and GRD (green)


    All wires connected to the Wiikey2


    A (light purple), B (yellow-black), C (green), G (red-yellow)


    point G


    Thanks in advance,

    DBX
    Last edited by Downburstx; 01-27-2009 at 10:53 AM.

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    I cant say I am a seasoned wiikey vet like others here but here are my 2 cents....
    (I do know a thing or two about soldering though)
    I dont know if you used a magnifying glass to do the soldering, but using one make ALL the difference. You never realize how much easier it makes the job when you can see it 2x or 3x larger.

    Looking at the 3.3 power the wire looks like the isulation might be touching the board. The soldering iron you used might be a little strong (15 watts is MORE than enough and standard 25 watt, you need to be quick with) (I'd also recommend using a 60/40 soldering wire) It does look like its working though because the chip is powering up and flashing.

    The gwire looks like it might be touching the resistor on the board, again its hard to tell exactly but the insulation is melted on the wire. (this connection in my opinion is the worst one since its sooo small)

    After hearing the startup noise, it that a beeping sound or a high pitch clicking sound. Are the disks getting a groove on them after they have been inserted? (look at BOTH sides of the game disk)

    Tom

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    Thanks Tom for the response.

    After multiple spins and ejects with two original discs no scratches where found. Now I've also broke up all the connections between the wii and the wiikey2 wires (3.3, GND, A,B,C,G) and put some isolation material between the wire and the wii solder points. So basicly i'm back to an original wii, but I still get the same beeps and click problems, and still doesn't read a single disc. Only spins 2 slow disc revolutions and see a red laser dot which is moving, but slamming/moving into something which causes a click. It looks a bit desorientated...

    I also checked the disc motor, because the disc spins only about 1 to 2 slow revolutions. But the motor was moving smoothly.

    In this link:
    http://www.wiihacks.com/genuine-wiik...dvd-drive.html
    I found some eject problems where solved by bridging an 'n' fuse. Ejecting and inserting works fine, but could this maybe help?

    By the way, after removing the wires (to the wiikey) from the wii board, they all looked perfect. There is only soldered where it needed to be...

    Does anybody know something more about the laser and spinning controlling/motors etc.? I have an multimeter to messure some values.

    Thanks
    Last edited by Downburstx; 01-28-2009 at 06:00 AM.

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    Your install is very messy as well. The wires should be solders from the tip of the wire going into the joint and a solid stream of solder should be seen. You have soldered the side of the wire. I don't trust the connection on point c on the wiikey 2. And you have too much residue on point a on the drive its self.

    Clean up some of this stuff. Solder so that the end of the wire is going to the joint and then you should get better results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balaberda View Post
    Your install is very messy as well. The wires should be solders from the tip of the wire going into the joint and a solid stream of solder should be seen. You have soldered the side of the wire. I don't trust the connection on point c on the wiikey 2. And you have too much residue on point a on the drive its self.

    Clean up some of this stuff. Solder so that the end of the wire is going to the joint and then you should get better results.
    I'll try to clean up the solder mess, but it still doesn't explain why the wii doesn't work without a single wiikey soldered anymore. It looks maybe partially broken.

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    It is most likely because you have a short somewhere or you need to remove the excess flux.

    Can you provide a picture of point g that you have covered up as I have a feeling that might be where your bridge is but point a doesn't look too good either.

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    you disconnected the wires from the wiikey or from the board directly???
    I would look to see about seeing any shorts on the board.

    Another thought is did you test the drive after you removed the epoxy?

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    p.s. look on the board for any dripped solder, that can easily short things out too.

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    Thanks for the responses.

    I tested the wii direct after the removal of the epoxy and it was working fine (no beeps, clicks and reading originals). Yesterday I removed the wires directly from the Wii board.
    I need to get a magnifier to check for (very) small pieces of solder and check for excess flux. I'll post a picture of point g today, only the wire has been disconnected. But now you can exactly see where the solder was connected to the point.

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