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    Question 12-hour install times? That's not normal, right?

    My girlfriend and I both softmodded our consoles in the last couple days. I have a brand-new black console that started on 4.3U, she has a very old (pre-2008, I think) white console that also started on 4.3U. We both updated using Mauifrog's guide, with no problems. The only difference between the two is that her console was able to install BootMii as boot2; mine had to be installed as IOS.

    After I modded my Wii a few days ago, I tried backing up my Sin & Punishment: Star Successor to a 2GB flash drive (empty, FAT32 formatted) just to see what the process was like. (I don't yet have a dedicated external HDD to backup my game collection.) It took about 20 minutes, and had a final size of 1.01GB. No problem, right?

    Last night, we softmodded my girlfriend's Wii. She doesn't have any flash drives; we each have a 500GB external hard drive that we use for file storage, iTunes, and system backup. Mine is FAT32 and Wii-compatible; hers is used with a Mac (Time Machine), but I haven't looked up what that means yet.

    Because we didn't have a flash drive to test hers out on, I plugged my external HDD into her Wii, started WiiFlow, put in her Ghostbusters game, and hit install. That was at 12:15am (00:15 for you Europeans). It is now 11:05am (11:05 for you Europeans, lol) and the installation is 68% complete. Let me repeat that: ELEVEN HOURS LATER, the game is SIXTY-EIGHT PERCENT done. This does NOT seem normal, and my searching around through various threads seems to back that up.

    What's going on here? Is it because I plugged in a FAT32 hard drive? Is it because that hard drive has other files on it? Should I not use WiiFlow to install games? Is this console or this copy of Ghostbusters messed up? Is it something else that I haven't even thought of? We both have a bunch of games to back up, and 20-hour install times per game isn't gonna fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ornryactor View Post
    My girlfriend and I both softmodded our consoles in the last couple days. I have a brand-new black console that started on 4.3U, she has a very old (pre-2008, I think) white console that also started on 4.3U. We both updated using Mauifrog's guide, with no problems. The only difference between the two is that her console was able to install BootMii as boot2; mine had to be installed as IOS.

    After I modded my Wii a few days ago, I tried backing up my Sin & Punishment: Star Successor to a 2GB flash drive (empty, FAT32 formatted) just to see what the process was like. (I don't yet have a dedicated external HDD to backup my game collection.) It took about 20 minutes, and had a final size of 1.01GB. No problem, right?

    Last night, we softmodded my girlfriend's Wii. She doesn't have any flash drives; we each have a 500GB external hard drive that we use for file storage, iTunes, and system backup. Mine is FAT32 and Wii-compatible; hers is used with a Mac (Time Machine), but I haven't looked up what that means yet.

    Because we didn't have a flash drive to test hers out on, I plugged my external HDD into her Wii, started WiiFlow, put in her Ghostbusters game, and hit install. That was at 12:15am (00:15 for you Europeans). It is now 11:05am (11:05 for you Europeans, lol) and the installation is 68% complete. Let me repeat that: ELEVEN HOURS LATER, the game is SIXTY-EIGHT PERCENT done. This does NOT seem normal, and my searching around through various threads seems to back that up.

    What's going on here? Is it because I plugged in a FAT32 hard drive? Is it because that hard drive has other files on it? Should I not use WiiFlow to install games? Is this console or this copy of Ghostbusters messed up? Is it something else that I haven't even thought of? We both have a bunch of games to back up, and 20-hour install times per game isn't gonna fly.
    Assuming you did the softmod correctly, it's not a software problem. I have used WiiFlow to back up games before and it never takes more than 45 mins (single-layer games take much less time). First you need to make sure you drive is plugged into USB port 0 (the one closest to the edge of the casing). It should also be USB 2.0 compatible. The disk could be bad as well. Or it could be a problem with the Wii itself (failing laser or USB ports).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dniMretsaM View Post
    Assuming you did the softmod correctly, it's not a software problem. I have used WiiFlow to back up games before and it never takes more than 45 mins (single-layer games take much less time). First you need to make sure you drive is plugged into USB port 0 (the one closest to the edge of the casing). It should also be USB 2.0 compatible. The disk could be bad as well. Or it could be a problem with the Wii itself (failing laser or USB ports).
    UPDATE: It is now 1:35pm (13:35), and the process is at 84%. It has been running for 12 hours and 20 minutes.

    I followed the guide, and did the exact same steps on both consoles. The only difference was that we were able to install BootMii as boot2 on my girlfriend's console, which I was unable to do on mine. However, I don't think that would make a difference in this situation.

    The drive IS plugged into USB 0 (left/bottom port).
    The drive IS USB 2.0.
    I doubt it's a problem with the USB port, since it was able to read my 2GB flash drive without problems or lag.
    I doubt it's a problem with the HDD, since I just ran chkdsk and defragged it a couple days ago, and had been using it just fine earlier in the evening.
    I doubt it's a problem with the Wii's optical laser, since my girlfriend had been playing games immediately prior to trying this installation, and there were no discernible issues or lag.

    That leaves the most likely culprit as a scratched disc. I didn't look at the bottom of it before I put it in, so I honestly don't know what condition it's in, but I would think that a scratched disc would be more likely to just fail or give an error message or make no progress, rather than make progress that is painfully slow but consistent and steady. When I installed Star Successor (see above), the disc wasn't in perfect condition but it still installed just fine. At this point, I have no choice but to wait for Ghostbusters to finish, and then check the disc when it's done.

    Are there any other possibilities? Is there anything I can check or do to the Wii to possibly prevent something like this from happening with the rest of the games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ornryactor View Post
    UPDATE: It is now 1:35pm (13:35), and the process is at 84%. It has been running for 12 hours and 20 minutes.

    I followed the guide, and did the exact same steps on both consoles. The only difference was that we were able to install BootMii as boot2 on my girlfriend's console, which I was unable to do on mine. However, I don't think that would make a difference in this situation.

    The drive IS plugged into USB 0 (left/bottom port).
    The drive IS USB 2.0.
    I doubt it's a problem with the USB port, since it was able to read my 2GB flash drive without problems or lag.
    I doubt it's a problem with the HDD, since I just ran chkdsk and defragged it a couple days ago, and had been using it just fine earlier in the evening.
    I doubt it's a problem with the Wii's optical laser, since my girlfriend had been playing games immediately prior to trying this installation, and there were no discernible issues or lag.

    That leaves the most likely culprit as a scratched disc. I didn't look at the bottom of it before I put it in, so I honestly don't know what condition it's in, but I would think that a scratched disc would be more likely to just fail or give an error message or make no progress, rather than make progress that is painfully slow but consistent and steady. When I installed Star Successor (see above), the disc wasn't in perfect condition but it still installed just fine. At this point, I have no choice but to wait for Ghostbusters to finish, and then check the disc when it's done.

    Are there any other possibilities? Is there anything I can check or do to the Wii to possibly prevent something like this from happening with the rest of the games?
    You might want to check the USB compatibility list (link in my sig) and see what it has to say about your specific drive (if anything). You could also try reformatting the drive using the instructions in the FAT32 guide on this site (link also in my sig). Be sure to backup anything important first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dniMretsaM View Post
    You might want to check the USB compatibility list (link in my sig) and see what it has to say about your specific drive (if anything). You could also try reformatting the drive using the instructions in the FAT32 guide on this site (link also in my sig). Be sure to backup anything important first.
    As I said in my original post (though not in so many words, I guess), I already checked the USB compatibility list, and my drive is listed as fully compatible. Reformatting wouldn't do anything, as the drive was reformatted just a week ago, and I ran chkdsk and a defragger on it a day prior to this situation.

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    I would recommend (after going through this exercise to get the one disc ripped) trying another drive, or even a USB key. This will help eliminate the possibility that the problem lies with your hard drive. If the problem occurs with another drive, it's likely that the wii drive might be the cuprit.

    Also, your FAT partition should be PRIMARY and ACTIVE.

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