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    I'm pretty sure I've tried it, but I'll give it another shot.

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    Just to let you know that I have copied from one usb drive to another with no problems.
    I use XP SP2
    2 x USB drives into two USB ports on my laptop.
    WBFS 3.0
    The one thing that I do that is very different is that I remove my partitions from my drives and do not format the WBFS partition with NTFS. I have unknown partitions in Windows and then use WBFS to format the partitions.
    Both drives actually have two partitions each, the first is unknown and the second is FAT32 as Ihad problems with NTFS.
    WBFS partition must be the first partition on the USB drive.
    My suggestion is to remove all partitions from your new drive, set the unknown partition as primary and active and do not format with windows.
    Run WBFS and format the partition.
    I run on 500GB drives and I don't think the Wii can handle 1.5TB but that may just be a rumour. Try a 500GB partition and use that instead.
    ALSO on the 'new' dive, have you tried to install anything and run it? This would test that the partitioing is correct before you try and use WBFS to copy.
    I use uloader in HBC to run from my USB drive although I don;t see whay that should make any difference. SO summarry:
    DO not format
    Partition and do not format
    Make partition primary and active (Windows Disk manager)
    Format 1st partition with WBFS
    Use WBFS to copy across.
    Hope this helps - let me know if you follow the above and still no luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    Just to let you know that I have copied from one usb drive to another with no problems.
    I use XP SP2
    2 x USB drives into two USB ports on my laptop.
    WBFS 3.0
    The one thing that I do that is very different is that I remove my partitions from my drives and do not format the WBFS partition with NTFS. I have unknown partitions in Windows and then use WBFS to format the partitions.
    Both drives actually have two partitions each, the first is unknown and the second is FAT32 as Ihad problems with NTFS.
    WBFS partition must be the first partition on the USB drive.
    My suggestion is to remove all partitions from your new drive, set the unknown partition as primary and active and do not format with windows.
    Run WBFS and format the partition.
    I run on 500GB drives and I don't think the Wii can handle 1.5TB but that may just be a rumour. Try a 500GB partition and use that instead.
    ALSO on the 'new' dive, have you tried to install anything and run it? This would test that the partitioing is correct before you try and use WBFS to copy.
    I use uloader in HBC to run from my USB drive although I don;t see whay that should make any difference. SO summarry:
    DO not format
    Partition and do not format
    Make partition primary and active (Windows Disk manager)
    Format 1st partition with WBFS
    Use WBFS to copy across.
    Hope this helps - let me know if you follow the above and still no luck.
    Although all that works for you, for others it may be an unnecessary step too much and is not a requirement for it to work, it's each to their own and what works for you may, or may not, work for many others

    There is no hard disk size limit, just a 500 game limit that USB loaders can handle.

    There is no reason to create 2 partitions on WBFS drives, although having a small FAT32 partition can make life easier, but some prefer to have the whole drive available to get the maximum number of Wii games onto it.

    But I do agree you are very close to the best method, but for those who wish to use the whole drive, then:

    So summary:

    Plug into Windows PC
    DO not format (even though the PC will ask if you wish to)
    Create a single Primary Partition (using Disk Manager from MyComputer) and do not format
    Use WBFS to format to your choice (WBFS or FAT32)
    Use WBFS to copy across.

    If you wish to see the drive in Windows, then you can do the whole lot into FAT32, but you will be limited in your choice of USB Loaders,

    Read this table for choices:

    USB Loader Releases - WikiTemp
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    Thanks for clarifying. I don;t want to sound argumentative but....

    There is no hard disk size limit, just a 500 game limit that USB loaders can handle.
    ----- There is much written about not being able to use 1.5TB drives. Have yo tried a WBFS partition yourself that is that large as I have been thinking of upgrading from 500GB ?

    There is no reason to create 2 partitions on WBFS drives, although having a small FAT32 partition can make life easier, but some prefer to have the whole drive available to get the maximum number of Wii games onto it.
    ------Agreed. I use one for games/apps using ISO and my FAT32 for music, videos etc. played by Mplayer. I tried NTFS but it didn't work



    Create a single Primary Partition (using Disk Manager from MyComputer) and do not format
    ----- I would still create a minimum FAT32 as that allow you to check that the disk is working via, for example, FTP running FTPii as it can mount the FAT32 drive. Not essential by any means.
    Use WBFS to format to your choice (WBFS or FAT32)

    ----- I didn;t know that WBFS can format to FAT32 - it took ages to find a FAT32 formatter (well an hour or so) that actually worked properly. Again - have you tried this? I was always under the impression that the iso games needed to be on WBFS partition. If you are right and uloader can read from FAT32 then I really don't need two partitions just one large FAT32 ?

    If you wish to see the drive in Windows, then you can do the whole lot into FAT32, but you will be limited in your choice of USB Loaders,

    Read this table for choices:

    USB Loader Releases - WikiTemp[/QUOTE]

    ---- Thanks for the link - I was unaware of such a great comparison table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    Thanks for clarifying. I don;t want to sound argumentative but....

    There is no hard disk size limit, just a 500 game limit that USB loaders can handle.
    ----- There is much written about not being able to use 1.5TB drives. Have yo tried a WBFS partition yourself that is that large as I have been thinking of upgrading from 500GB ?
    I'm more than happy with 1TB, but there are many now getting 1.5TB & 2TB drives and using them with their Wii, some have multiple partitions some haven't, it depends on your use of the USB drive, if it is all for the Wii, then providing you don't need more than 500 games (seriously, unless you're pirating for profit and passing them on, who really needs 500+ games on an external USB HD?) you can use all the drive in a FAT32 drive or split into PC use & Wii use with a FAT32 active partition for the Wii & an NTFS partition for the PC

    The difficulty is following guides that were written at the time when WBFS system was the bells & whistles when in fact today consensus amongst the forums and it's many members is switching to a single FAT32 as the OS of choice due to it being seen by windows, Linux, Macs, & the Wii, one single drive solves many, many problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    There is no reason to create 2 partitions on WBFS drives, although having a small FAT32 partition can make life easier, but some prefer to have the whole drive available to get the maximum number of Wii games onto it.
    ------Agreed. I use one for games/apps using ISO and my FAT32 for music, videos etc. played by Mplayer. I tried NTFS but it didn't work
    NTFS will not work on Wii Apps, excepting a couple of USB loaders that require an SD Card to boot, but for some a whole external NTFS drive is ok for Wii Games only & PC use, it's an option to be considered for some.

    Some have NTFS drives & use USB sticks to run HBC apps & stuff like Mplayer.


    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    Create a single Primary Partition (using Disk Manager from MyComputer) and do not format
    ----- I would still create a minimum FAT32 as that allow you to check that the disk is working via, for example, FTP running FTPii as it can mount the FAT32 drive. Not essential by any means.
    Well that would depend if the whole drive is FAT32 for Wii use, which would make your point mute, it all depends on what the user desires and for what use the drive is used for, Wii or/& PC, we have to be careful in how things are stated as what is wrote can be taken as gospel by others.

    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    Use WBFS to format to your choice (WBFS or FAT32)

    ----- I didn;t know that WBFS can format to FAT32 - it took ages to find a FAT32 formatter (well an hour or so) that actually worked properly. Again - have you tried this?
    Well that was blatantly wrong wasn't it, so many posts in so many threads I'm bound to throw a wobbly now & then

    Anyone reading then use this -> Fat32Formatter

    To format the drive

    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    I was always under the impression that the iso games needed to be on WBFS partition. If you are right and uloader can read from FAT32 then I really don't need two partitions just one large FAT32 ?
    No - the ISO game definitely do not need to be on WBFS partitions, this is where the ideology is swinging to FAT32 single partitioned drives, all the game, all the HBC, all the WiiWare, use Mplayer for all your media (TV, Movies, Music), all manageable from one single FAT32 drive these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    If you wish to see the drive in Windows, then you can do the whole lot into FAT32, but you will be limited in your choice of USB Loaders,

    Read this table for choices:

    USB Loader Releases - WikiTemp

    ---- Thanks for the link - I was unaware of such a great comparison table.
    There's another table like that for USB Loaders:

    USB Loader Releases - WikiTemp

    For me, if I was to start over, then I would do this:

    If it was a new drive, single FAT32 partition use this Fat32Formatter

    This will be your game manager for getting games on & off the drive:

    Wii Game Manager - GBAtemp.net

    USB Loaders of choice for me would be:

    Configurable USB Loader - GBAtemp.net

    News (USB Loader GX)

    All running off one single FAT32 drive, no more than 500 games though, but when you add all the TV, all the Movies and all the music and all the WiiWare you are ever likely to need, all in one place, then you prob won't be ever off your Wii after all that would you?
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    Thanks again !
    That was where I was going wrong in reading old stuff. No I certainly don't need lots of games and I am using my Wii as a media player.
    Fortunately I started with a drive that didn't auto start on USB power and now use a Seagate box...so... I have a spare USB drive and can format to FAT32 and use WBFS to copy stuff across.
    (as a test of course)
    If this works it will be ideal as I then will have one partition with everything on it.
    Sorry to ask another question, I guess I should do this tomorrow and see what happens, but what do..
    1. The Wii iso files look like on Windows - can it 'see' them and iff so why couldn't I copy (using FTP)
    2. My other media files look like to WBFS - presumably it ignores them. It will be intersting to see what Mplayer makes of it all - perhaps ignores the .iso files as not the correct extension.
    I really must say thanks a lot for this - just wish the 'old' stuff could be removed - the 'rumour' messages.
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    1. The Wii iso files look like on Windows - can it 'see' them and iff so why couldn't I copy (using FTP)
    Yes it sees them ok.

    Well you can use FTP to copy from PC to Wii USB FAT32 drive, it is slow, but I know a few that do it, they mainly set it up to copy over overnight, download the ISO, scrub it on PC, FTP the scrubbed ISO over to Wii USB HDD is the process, but I also know some that copy the scrubbed ISO to an SD Card, drop the card into the Wii and use FTPii or Wiiexplorer to copy the data from D Card to USB HDD, much faster, and still saves you having to unplug your Wii USB HDD, the less you unplug it the less chance of it crashing.

    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    2. My other media files look like to WBFS - presumably it ignores them. It will be intersting to see what Mplayer makes of it all - perhaps ignores the .iso files as not the correct extension.
    It sees them, can't play them though, but a way round it is to have a /media directory and drop all media files in further folders, TV. Movies, Music etc, then your actual files in then folders, much neater way of working.

    Quote Originally Posted by malk_100 View Post
    I really must say thanks a lot for this - just wish the 'old' stuff could be removed - the 'rumour' messages.
    Cheers
    Doesn't need deleting, just needs a new alternative guide, everything is about choices, you make your own mind up on what path to take after being given all the options.


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    I am succesfully using a 1.5 tb drive primarily/only for wii , just to clarify that.
    I'm going to try deleting everything again and repartitioning through wbfs manager only. I'm just worried to be at a loss for having to RELOAD all those games again... (so much time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrl throat View Post
    I am succesfully using a 1.5 tb drive primarily/only for wii , just to clarify that.
    I'm going to try deleting everything again and repartitioning through wbfs manager only. I'm just worried to be at a loss for having to RELOAD all those games again... (so much time)
    It's your choice, but just pointing out that is a very restrictive option you chose.
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    lfc4ever,

    Thank you for providing an altenate process to setting up your USB HD. It's nice to have choices.

    I moded my 4.2u Wii with no problems and it runs backups just fine, but I ordered a WD 500gb USB HD last night in plans of switching to USB just to make playing easier. I have a question about your quote below:

    Quote Originally Posted by lfc4ever View Post
    It's your choice, but just pointing out that is a very restrictive option you chose.
    My plan was have two partitions. One 2gigs in FAT32 for HBC, Apps, etc. and the rest in WBFS for my games. I will NOT be running any Media files (movies, music, etc). The sole purpose is to run my Game ISOs. I have USB Loader GX installed. Can tell me how doing this would restrict me?

    Also, from the table you provided it looks at if USB Loader GX supports FAT32. Couldn't I just do one partition in FAT32? Sounds too easy.

    Thanks
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