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    Question on legaility?

    Ok, I dont want to cause any arguments but if someone could help me with an answer to this I would really appreciate it. My friend saw that I managed to hack my Wii without too much issues and ask me to do it for him which I did but now he has told other people I dont know and they want me to do it for them and are willing to give me a few bucks (when I declined they offer and I'm broke) so I want to know if I do this for them, is it illegal to hack the Wii? I mean I know the games are but I've always been under the impression that the hacking part is legal just not the playing backups part, is that true? Cause I wont be helping them with games just getting the homebrew stuff setup?

    I'm sorry if this has been answered or if its the wrong place for it but other searches have only come up with lots of arguments and unclear answer.

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    My opinion on this is as follows

    * Hacking the wii is not Illegal
    * Playing the games that YOU do not own not the best (do at your own risk - LOL)
    * Modding for other people is not Illegal, but if you collect $$$ i would at least donate some to this site to help the admin and mods to continue the great work.
    * Selling the DVD-R/ISO backups for $$$ like on craigslist.... ABSOLUTE NO NO!!!!


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    As far as i know, its NOT legal in most countries to modify the hardware, but i think its legal to install homebrew apps etc, but does void the warranty on the console.

    I may be wrong but im sure others can confirm

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    Thats what I was confused about, since I wont be doing any hardware mods just softare then I would think its not illegal and I definitely wont be selling games, and I would definitely donate here if I earn a couple bucks, this place is the nicest most helpful site I've ever been to

    Like with the PSP I always heard that the hacking part was perfectly legal, even the hombrew stuff like emulators since they were so old. I just want to be sure cause I just dont feel comfortable when its for people I dont know. I never liked doing that but my friends have big mouths lol.

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    Just be sure to consider what it is worth when you price it. You are more or less selling a service that they have no clue or are not inclined to being able to do and chances are they will bug you when they mess things up.
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    Oh it's far worse, Odd --- they think you become 24/7 tech support ("Well you told me 10 times not to update to 4.2 but I couldn't help myself" --- you charge 5X for a second mod for those ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaeLi View Post
    Ok, I dont want to cause any arguments but if someone could help me with an answer to this I would really appreciate it. My friend saw that I managed to hack my Wii without too much issues and ask me to do it for him which I did but now he has told other people I dont know and they want me to do it for them and are willing to give me a few bucks (when I declined they offer and I'm broke) so I want to know if I do this for them, is it illegal to hack the Wii? I mean I know the games are but I've always been under the impression that the hacking part is legal just not the playing backups part, is that true? Cause I wont be helping them with games just getting the homebrew stuff setup?

    I'm sorry if this has been answered or if its the wrong place for it but other searches have only come up with lots of arguments and unclear answer.
    Re: legality... a gray area. You will most certainly void a factory warranty doing the mod and Nintendo will prolly claim proprietary code rights and an army of suits will declare this a breach of milleniuum copyright act infringement (because we know one-size-fits-all, right?). If you're asking about consequences, the only real one is warranty voiding.

    Installing, playing, etc games you don't own onto the Wii would constitute copyright infringement with the US. All of the above relates to the US, where "special interests" (Corporate $$$) buy US law on such matters. Best to research your own countries laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightstah View Post
    Oh it's far worse, Odd --- they think you become 24/7 tech support ("Well you told me 10 times not to update to 4.2 but I couldn't help myself" --- you charge 5X for a second mod for those ones.
    yes lol that sounds about right. you end up regretting the day you ever did it sometimes. I try to to do a little personal I.Q. test, but ignorance comes from places you least expect it to.
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    Truth of the matter is when you buy the wii it becomes you hardware to do with what you see fit, hardware mods are fine and so are softmods to an extend...
    i.e homebrew is fine, its when you get to the IOS things get sketchy, if you use nintendo original code as source or modified chances are it's copyrighted, that is illegal. If you want to just install DVDX and Homebrew, you should be fine but make it known to the person the dangers of bricking and that your not there call centre and that if they mod it any further ie to play backups it more than likely becomes illegal even if you have the originals due to copyright laws on uing nintendo modified code to make them play.


    not really relevant but incase you were wondering it's the same with XBOX360 when modding firmware.

    I know most do it and most wouldn't admitt, and yes it saves money etc but the final fact is:

    PIRACY IS ILLEGAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaeLi View Post
    Ok, I dont want to cause any arguments but if someone could help me with an answer to this I would really appreciate it. My friend saw that I managed to hack my Wii without too much issues and ask me to do it for him which I did but now he has told other people I dont know and they want me to do it for them and are willing to give me a few bucks (when I declined they offer and I'm broke) so I want to know if I do this for them, is it illegal to hack the Wii? I mean I know the games are but I've always been under the impression that the hacking part is legal just not the playing backups part, is that true? Cause I wont be helping them with games just getting the homebrew stuff setup?

    I'm sorry if this has been answered or if its the wrong place for it but other searches have only come up with lots of arguments and unclear answer.

    Do you live in the United States of America? Then modifying anyone's console in order to circumvent copyright protection measures is illegal.

    The hammer of truth and justice has come down for game store owners Jason Jones, Pei Cai and Jonathan Bryant who have been charged on copyright infringement for the sell of modified Xbox systems that allow the console to play pirated video games. All of them are up for one felony count for conspiracy to infringe on the copyright and the violation of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act.
    So there is your answer. Yes it is illegal to modify a console in order to play backed up games. However (in some states) it is also illegal to jaywalk or ride you bike without a helmet.

    Yes it is illegal, are you going to get in trouble from the law if you modify a few of your friends consoles? Almost certainly not.

    I would do it if they are your close friends and you inform them completely of the complications that may arise to their Wii when modified. You also need to correctly inform them about how temper mental the Wii can be especially if they decide to update or upgrade it themselves in the future without properly knowing what is going on in their Wii (ie: can brick themselves).

    If they seem like the kid who would run to his parents if his Wii suddenly stopped working and proceeded to start pointed fingers at you in how you were selling copied games, I'd suggest not going through with helping that kid. It just isn't worth the headache.

    You seem to be fairly young, so I wouldn't be too worried about it anyways. Keep it on low terms (ie: Don't try to start your own business on Craigslist) inform your friends and you won't run into any problems.



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