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    Your Ideal 500gb External HD Partition settings, fat or fat32 that is the question?

    Don't know if this is the correct thread to be posting on so 'mods' please move this thread if neccessary:

    Ok guys i thought i would throw this one out to try and help me.

    Already have a freecom 500gb external hardrive casing with samsung drive inside with a fat,ntfc & wbfs partition which has worked great in the past for my wii (with covers via fat (not 32!), films via geexbox on ntfs drive, and iso games via wbfs manager 3.0. I previously only allocated about 30gb to a wbfs partition, a 2gb fat partition & a 400ish gb ntfc partition with all my movies, music, personal stuff etc! The only thing that would not work after serious testing and trial and error was triforce via the fat partition. (although it worked ok via sandisk 2gb sd card)

    I'm about to format the drive and would like to ask a few questions without have to reformat the drive several times to find out!

    1. As long as i format and setup the drive and partition in this order:

    (fat,fat32,ntfs,wbfs), will usb hd app loaders like 'usbconfig' and 'wiiflow' load the games from wbfs AND pull the covers from the fat partition OR the FAT32 partition?

    2. If i create both a fat and fat32 partition which partition should i make the most for space for?

    2b. IF necessary which particular order do they need to be set up in.

    3. To cover all other emulation bases i.e triforce, triforce_mrc, sdl mame, other console emulators, hbc via usb hd which out of the two: fat or fat32 would you recommend?

    4. What would be your ideal partition layout for a 500gb external drive?

    I'm thinking about the following as i'm not sure if it's worth having a just a fat partition which worked ok for covers and mame_sdl and vids via mplayer in the past or to have that as well as a fat 32 partition to the accomplish the following:

    FAT - 06gb -----(for covers! - wont work for me with triforce

    FAT 32 - 50gb -----(for future wii app devolopments i.e testing games via fat32 & maybe triforce MIGHT start working as it starts fine via sd but NOT via fat partition?! & playing around with hermes and wiiflow via fat32 if it is necessary over fat? & for mplayer support. )and maybe Rawksd support!)

    NTFS DRIVE SIZE - 6gb ----------- for future game testing, films for geexbox or odd and ends?
    WBFS - 400gb ------------ fo backups of games i own now and in the future!

    =================== 462gb ACTUAL SPACE (500gb ntfs hd limit)

    Does anyone agree with this setup to save me time and effort in the future? If not, what would you recommend?

    Will it ignore fat 32 if it sees the fat partition or vice versa?

    I hope a few people have been in this predicament before and i reckon a few might well in the future. If they have a 1tb drive they could always multiply the answers to my queries x2 !

    Thanks in advance and happy new year!
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    My setup would be as follows:

    1GB FAT32 (Store NAND Backup files & all USB Loader GX covers & Settings)
    400GB WBFS (For games)
    99GB NTFS (For anything else. I don't use ROMs or watch movies personally)

    Adjust the last two to meet the requirements you need for what you like to do with your Wii. You could go for a 50/50 split with the WBFS and NTFS ... its all a personal preference.

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    double post , see post below!
    Last edited by melodical; 01-07-2010 at 07:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazNicki View Post
    My setup would be as follows:

    1GB FAT32 (Store NAND Backup files & all USB Loader GX covers & Settings)
    400GB WBFS (For games)
    99GB NTFS (For anything else. I don't use ROMs or watch movies personally)

    Adjust the last two to meet the requirements you need for what you like to do with your Wii. You could go for a 50/50 split with the WBFS and NTFS ... its all a personal preference.
    Thanks for that 'GazNicki'!

    a. So, your saying i dont need to have a fat "AND" A fat32 partition for usbconfig & wiiflow/hiberns 222 etc / triforce etc to work?
    b. Have you tried OR Can you get Wiipower's, 'Triforce' nand game emu to work via fat32 by any chance, if you've tried that is? I've only got it working via sd nand or via a 2 gb sd card plugged into a usb adaptor.

    Cheers for the quick feedback!

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    I must confess to never using any of those applications, but I can't see why it wouldn't work with FAT32. I know that there are differences across the formats, but I would be inclined to say that FAT32 would work just as well. I can however confirm that USB Loader GX works perfectly with the FAT32 partition to store the Config Files, Themes and Game Covers.

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    My silly HDD can't be formatted as FAT or FAT32, only NTFS or exFAT : (
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    Quote Originally Posted by GazNicki View Post
    I must confess to never using any of those applications, but I can't see why it wouldn't work with FAT32. I know that there are differences across the formats, but I would be inclined to say that FAT32 would work just as well. I can however confirm that USB Loader GX works perfectly with the FAT32 partition to store the Config Files, Themes and Game Covers.
    Looks like the very helpfull wiihacks moderator 'Tealc' has already answered my questions! As usual! Lol, thanks again to the dude for your usual 'sound' advice! Cheers again matey!

    Thanks again for your input 'GazNicki'

    Found my answers with the following line from thread:

    USER/MOD : Tealc
    "90% WBFS for games, 10% FAT32 for covers, Triiforce and media"
    http://www.wiihacks.com/wiihacks-new...partition.html
    (post number #5)

    What he says sounds good to me!

    I'm gonna go with:

    15gb = fat32 & what-not & for covers and half of every MAME game ever made & hibern/gh/rb/222 trials on fat 32. If triforce works then even better! & mplayer divx playing.

    4gb = ntfs

    400ish gb = WBFS

    Does anyone else know if fat32 is faster than fat when loading and running wii iso's wii ware hbc apps etc?
    Does fat32 work for wiiflow and usbconfig?

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    I would give a little more to FAT32 format, just to add roms and Triiforce, I have over 2GB of NES/SNES roms, and the Triiforce Wiiware will use a lot of space if you're going to be doing that. I don't know if the roms or triiforce will work from NTFS, but you can pretty much bet that anything homebrew will work from the FAT32 format. My 500GB hard drive had about 465GB freespace, new out of the box. I would go like this, 400GB WBFS, 65GB FAT32, You really don't need a NTFS partition. To add movies that are larger that 4GB will be a waste of hard drive space, compress the movies first. FAT32 doesn't support anyting over 4GB. My 1TB HDD is formatted to NTFS and I wish it wasn't, I plugged it into my DIVX certified DVD player and it does not recognize it. I have too much stuff on it to transfer it and reformat the HDD to FAT32.

    Does anyone else know if fat32 is faster than fat when loading and running wii iso's wii ware hbc apps etc?
    Does fat32 work for wiiflow and usbconfig?
    Just placing your covers on the USB HDD will make it faster than using the SD card. Go with the FAT32.
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    Thanks for your input 'Stomp'!

    The way you say sounds very sensible. I will go with this setup!

    Thanks again!

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    I converted 26 WiiWare for Triiforce and that used up almost 1 GB, And, if they ever get the N64 and PS1 emulators working better, there's more needed hard drive space needed. I getting me a higher capacity HDD, never know when GC will boot from HDD too.

    I see someone at GBAtemp has made ISO forwarders for WiiWare, that is a forwarder that shows up in your USB Loader and boots Wiiware, you will need Triiforce mrc working for the forwarders to work.

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