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    Question Weighing the Risks...?

    We got a new Wii that came with system menu 3.2, which has been upgraded to 4.1 by playing Super Mario Bros. Wii. Given that it is a new system I can only install BootMii as an IOS. I feel that I have enough knowledge to softmod it, however since it is a family console I don't want the average user to accidentally brick it. I have the opportunity to trade my new Wii for a 'release date' Wii which would allow me to install BootMii as boot2. I hate to trade new equipment for used equipment though. What would you do?

    I've also read that Nintendo has changed the EULA to read that they are able to update the system WITHOUT consent. That's a bit scary. If I could install BootMii as boot2 and Nintendo, in all their wisdom, decided to patch boot2 could I just reinstall BootMii? In both scenarios (boot2/IOS) what are the chances the very average joes that I share living space with could accidentally brickMii?

    I've done lots of reading on softmodding, there's just so much info it becomes a bit daunting. Sorry for the noob questions I just want some experienced input before I act.

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    i would not trade it, but boot2 could be usefull so ur choice.
    I have IOS Bootmii wii and im happy with it. I dont think nintendo will update by itself, but u have to make sure ur Wii 24 connect is off. Even if u dont hav bootmii2, u can still get Pre/priiloader which has some protection and blocks DISC updates. Also it would be good to take some of the APPS of the SD card cuz if they delete something usefull like IOS files then its screwed. I had my wii for like 4 months now and hav no problems and everyone plays it. Just tell em what not to do.

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    Yeah there are going to be risks involved if you trade away. It's an older console so it may have suffered graphics degradation from Wiiconnect24 heating up the chip, the drive might be ready to give out after you use it for a bit, or any number of things that the owner might not be aware of could give you problems in the future.

    But then there are the bonuses of having Bootmii as boot2 and the ability to play backup discs, which is probably something your new console cannot do. Also, N has already tried patching the boot2 on older consoles with it's 4.2 update. In some cases this was successful, but for the most part it was not due to imperfections in the code.

    I'd stick with my new console if it were me, though. Maybe buy it off them as a backup or a test model to learn the softmodding process before you mod your new one, if they'll sell it cheap enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithian View Post
    But then there are the bonuses of having Bootmii as boot2 and the ability to play backup discs, which is probably something your new console cannot do.
    his Wii originally came with ver 3.2 like mine so he should still be able to play dvd backups

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    Wow thanks for the very speedy replies! They won't sell the console to me it's only a Wii for a Wii trade. With preboot installed disc updates are prevented? If so, that's really great news!

    The tutorial I've read says to backup your NAND using BootMii, but then goes on to say that restores from an IOS BootMii install is not recommended. I imagine that is because the filesystem is already loaded and modifying it could cause problems; but if that's the case is there even any point in backing up the NAND?

    After the softmod if I had PreBoot, and no access to WAD Manager the console would be pretty safe from accidental brickage?

    One last thing: My Wii is still within the 30 Day Gamestop warranty. I the case of a brick would they exchange it? I've heard that sometimes they check for Preboot, that seem far-fetched to me.

    Thanks for reading!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithian View Post
    But then there are the bonuses of having Bootmii as boot2 and the ability to play backup discs, which is probably something your new console cannot do.
    My wii is waiting to be delivered (it's a black one and comes bundled with motion plus so I assume 4.2 will be on it). I'll be loading games and old snes roms from a usb HDD so the above doesn't really bother me but I wasn't aware of the issue. Could you explain why it cannot run back ups from burnt dvd's ? I've seen a video of someone on 4.2 running there own burnt wii back ups or did he just upgrade an old wii ?

    Back on topic @ the OP I'd prefer the option to bootmii/boot2 but only if the Wii was very good condition I generally disslike used stuff normally, but wish you luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerovivid View Post
    Wow thanks for the very speedy replies! They won't sell the console to me it's only a Wii for a Wii trade. With preboot installed disc updates are prevented? If so, that's really great news!

    The tutorial I've read says to backup your NAND using BootMii, but then goes on to say that restores from an IOS BootMii install is not recommended. I imagine that is because the filesystem is already loaded and modifying it could cause problems; but if that's the case is there even any point in backing up the NAND?

    After the softmod if I had PreBoot, and no access to WAD Manager the console would be pretty safe from accidental brickage?

    One last thing: My Wii is still within the 30 Day Gamestop warranty. I the case of a brick would they exchange it? I've heard that sometimes they check for Preboot, that seem far-fetched to me.

    Thanks for reading!
    -its priiloader that prevents disc updates
    -it does not hurt to save nand backup. Someday IOS may be usefull. Also about the not reccomended to restore IOS nand. I think u can restore it but its not FULL brick proof(u wont be able to access IOS bootmii if ur wii bricks fully cuz u need to run it from HBC or priiloader) But if u CAN run IOS bootmii, most likely there is another way to fix it. Thats why people say its unless.
    -make sure u dont hav any files that can modify the wiis files(any title deleter, wad manger or any installers/updaters)and u can just move the HBC to last slide of wii menu so they wont know about it. With priiloader its prty safe.
    -Well if u fully bricked ur wii and nothing shows up, i think they cant check it so u could exchange it and make up a story or something. If u can run priiloader than u should be able to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evasion-Lv6 View Post
    My wii is waiting to be delivered (it's a black one and comes bundled with motion plus so I assume 4.2 will be on it). I'll be loading games and old snes roms from a usb HDD so the above doesn't really bother me but I wasn't aware of the issue. Could you explain why it cannot run back ups from burnt dvd's ? I've seen a video of someone on 4.2 running there own burnt wii back ups or did he just upgrade an old wii ?
    4.2v is not the issue, i was just saying that older wiis like they came originaly with 3.2(out of the box) can play backups. Person on the vid just updated his old wii.
    black wiis have a new D3-2 drive chip and that stops it from reading backups

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    If a console was purchased anytime around or after September of '09 it could have a D3-2 chip, black or white.

    @Zerovivid & Evasion-Lv6: Regardless, it never hurts to double-check your serial against the lists here to see what drive chip you may have: Wii Drive Chip Database
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dami View Post
    wiis have a new D3-2 drive chip and that stops it from reading backups
    Ah I see, thanks for clearing that up. So the only way past would be a modchip ? Hasn't anybody opened 1 of these new wii's up and replaced the drive inside like people were doing with the xbox 360's they had the same problem when microsoft started using different drives.

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