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    Which USB Loader Should I Go For?

    I have a WiiKey 2 with fw 1.3.

    I have Homebrew channel installed.

    I can get a 500GB or a 1TB drive, I have the case and a small 300GB HD to try a test run to start with. SATA or IDE - any preference?

    I have a 1GB SD card.

    So for a USB HDD loader newb, what do you recommend? (read through to the end first please)

    Does the Wii have any drive size limits, I read that some have all the drive allocated, others with a WBFS Manager partition and a FAT partition for some files like cfg & gfx related matters as the best option?

    So what sizes would the partitions need to be - 450 & 50 GBs on a 500Gb? Or just have 1 large drive and go with an easy USB loader?

    Does the Wii understand 2 x hard disks like a PC does - drive C & drive D for instance? Partitioned disks or disks in both ports?

    What's the difference in the 2 x USB ports?

    Does a USB hub work?

    Does 2 x external hard disks work on the Wii?

    I very much doubt I would ever need more than 100 games that I would need to play on the hard disk, so I reckon a 500Gb would be perfect yes?

    I would like to install some EMUs & ROMs in due course, so does that stop me from using WBFS on the whole drive and would I be better going down a different USB loader route (an all FAT 32 formatted drive?) then to start with?

    As you see, so many questions from a PC tech type person that no matter how much I read, I still get more confused than when I first set out on this task

    TIA of any replies.

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    Your title is a little misleading. The term 'usb loader' refers to the application we use on the console, as opposed to the drive we load from. Here are some answers to your questions.

    I have a WiiKey 2 with fw 1.3.

    I have Homebrew channel installed.

    I can get a 500GB or a 1TB drive, I have the case and a small 300GB HD to try a test run to start with. SATA or IDE - any preference?

    -Compatibility lists here and here.

    I have a 1GB SD card.

    So for a USB HDD loader newb, what do you recommend? (read through to the end first please)

    Does the Wii have any drive size limits, I read that some have all the drive allocated, others with a WBFS Manager partition and a FAT partition for some files like cfg & gfx related matters as the best option?

    -Some have had issues connecting to a pc using a full WBFS partition. In this case it's recommended to have a small FAT partition on the drive.

    So what sizes would the partitions need to be - 450 & 50 GBs on a 500Gb? Or just have 1 large drive and go with an easy USB loader?

    -Size generally doesn't matter ( in this case ), but if any problems arise try a larger partition. Always have the WBFS partition be primary and active. A guide for setting these up properly in Windows is in my sig below.

    Does the Wii understand 2 x hard disks like a PC does - drive C & drive D for instance? Partitioned disks or disks in both ports?

    -Depends on the app. Some recognize a FAT partition, others don't it depends on the function. Most usb loaders do recognize them now. Second question answered below.

    What's the difference in the 2 x USB ports?

    -The outermost slot is the only one that will recognize and utilize a hard drive. The inner slot is only for usb Wii peripherals (guitar, mic, etc.).

    Does a USB hub work?

    -Some people have gotten them to work, some haven't. Hit or miss.

    Does 2 x external hard disks work on the Wii?

    -Seperately but not at the same time.

    I very much doubt I would ever need more than 100 games that I would need to play on the hard disk, so I reckon a 500Gb would be perfect yes?

    -500GB would hold much more than 100 games when formatted WBFS.

    I would like to install some EMUs & ROMs in due course, so does that stop me from using WBFS on the whole drive and would I be better going down a different USB loader route (an all FAT 32 formatted drive?) then to start with?

    -You can format a FAT partition on the drive or, as most do, load them from the SD card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithian View Post
    Your title is a little misleading. The term 'usb loader' refers to the application we use on the console, as opposed to the drive we load from. Here are some answers to your questions.
    Quality answers - thank you.

    But I tried to give as much info as I could to enable those that could answer to say that "xxx loader" is the one I suggest you go for, if you see what I mean? So by getting the loader sorted, I then go & sort the drives out and the way they are formatted.

    By showing what I hoped to achieve at the end of the day I was hoping to get the best loader for my needs from the off, so I don't have to change halfway through

    Personal preference is one large drive with everything on it.

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lfc4ever View Post
    Quality answers - thank you.

    But I tried to give as much info as I could to enable those that could answer to say that "xxx loader" is the one I suggest you go for, if you see what I mean? So by getting the loader sorted, I then go & sort the drives out and the way they are formatted.

    By showing what I hoped to achieve at the end of the day I was hoping to get the best loader for my needs from the off, so I don't have to change halfway through

    Personal preference is one large drive with everything on it.

    Thank you.
    Ah ok, so the thread was a little misleading then . It's really personal preference - they all mostly do a tremendous job of running backup games very efficiently.

    USB Loader GX is a simple interface and quite popular for it's ease of use, disc art, game banner music, customizable background music, global ios settings and is updated almost daily. Wiiflow probably has the most attractive interface which runs nearly seamless and has almost all the same features as USB Loader GX. CFG USB Loader has supported FAT partitions before any other usb loader, has a record for being reported as the most compatible loader, and also has a nice looking interface. Neogamma looks like crap but it works well, and many people use it.

    These are probably the first you'll be recommended, and they all do their job. The drive you pick should be based moreso on it's dependability and your own preference of style, form-factor, size, and interface than the loader you'll be using it with. While the two subjects of drive vs. loader are closely related, your choice of one won't generally impact the other.

    That said, my preference is to use a WD passport drive partioned WBFS/HFS+ with Wiiflow. I also use USB Loader GX just for kicks.
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    Thanks again - I'm getting there in my head.

    Does the Wii recognise and use all of a 500Gb or 1TB drive if formatted using WBFS?

    As I like the idea of scrubbed games.

    And as I'm reading it - WBFS scrubbed games can be loaded by alternative USB loaders then - which is where I was getting confused with, ie it's not a propriety limited format?

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    You got it, most of the loaders primarily use WBFS to read from. You'll have to check the compatibility lists for notes on whichever drive you pick - some people have had issues using a whole WBFS partition and others haven't had any at all. Worst case scenario format 980GB WBFS and 20GB FAT.
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    WiiHacks Acronyms ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ithian View Post
    That said, my preference is to use a WD passport drive partioned WBFS/HFS+ with Wiiflow. I also use USB Loader GX just for kicks.
    Is there a forum post for acronyms? ie... What is HFS+.?.?.? Having a PC background, I understand the need for them. Just wondered. I am born to search posts and did so and will probably feel noobish when I find out the answer. Thanks.

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    HFS+ stands for Hierarchical File System+. It's a format used by macs.
    "I think that the Wii is a beautiful piece of hardware, and a broken Wii is a tragedy. It doesn’t matter why or how." -- Bushing

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