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    Not total Newb but still need some help- 3.1U

    Hey all- my first post. I have an older wii with 3.1u on it, and installed a wiikey2 awhile back- works great. Haven't paid attention for awhile, and see lots of improvements in softmods. I can play Supermario Galaxy fine, but SSBB and MarioKart won't boot- black screen. I have Homebrew channel installed, and a few VC games and homebrew from SD card. I've seen that USB drives can be used now, and would like to know if I need to update to a newer dash (4.1u) or will just adding IOS's allow the USB drive loading, and probably fix the SSBB problem? I've read something about dual layer games being different in what they require? Lot's to digest on wii modding! All the tutorials seem to be for soft mod, so that's why I'm asking what I need to do differently, if anything since I have a chip? Thanks!

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    You can run USB Loader with 3.1. You will need a few of the newer IOS such as 38, 53, 55, 56.

    Updating to 4.1 using this guide http://www.wiihacks.com/recommended-...l-working.html will bring you to 4.1 with all your homebrew intact and give you SD channel and VC/Wiiware SD storage.

    Dual layer games on USB loaders work.

    Most of the tutorials on here are about softmodding even though quite a few of us use chips too. Chips are fit and forget.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    Thanks for such a quick reply! Would you recommend installing Bootmii, and will it work on my older wii as Boot2? (I'm guessing yes). If I follow the upgrade to 4.1 you mentioned, do I need to backup anything that will be over written (like VC games installed in system memory?) Should I just update my IOS's and keep 3.1u? I notice people saying 3.2 is very good to keep- any advantage to updating my wii past 3.1u? Thanks very much for you help.

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    You should be able to install bootmii as boot2 on a 3.1 Wii. As you already have HBC and want to keep your VC and HB apps, skip the HBC install part of Step 1 in the tutorial. As far as updating your system menu, unless you play online games, the games don;t play off the sysmenu, but use IOSes-that's why you need only install a needed IOS from here as new games come out.

    Advantages to going to 4.1-compatibility with SDHC cards, ability to play channels from SD, 20+ channel pages on the sys menu, online play compatibility. Not enough for me, I'm at 3.2U, maybe enough for you as you might need more space for your VC collection.

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    Thanks for that info. I may just keep what I have with 3.1u then- don't really need SDHC. I am interested in USB hard drive support though. Any reason to use the 'downgrader' to move to 3.2 ? Or will homebrew work the same with 3.1? Oh, how do I go about adding new IOS's and more importantly, know which ones I need to add without messing up my wii. Very confusing with all the topics recommending this or that, and multiple versions of IOS's. Different ones for gamecube stuff? Arggggh. So much stuff, and bricking my wii isn't high on my list!

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    Sounds like you need a bit more than the update to 4.1 with HBC intact. Try following this tutorial, then: http://www.wiihacks.com/recommended-...d-any-wii.html. Skip the HBC install part of Step 1, go ahead and do the bootmii part and then Step 2 will have you make a NAND backup. Step 3, all you will need to do is Step 3d, because your Wii should have the Trucha Bug. Step 4 - use the Wad Manager to install the IOS60patch.wad. Sounds like you will skip the FW4.1 updater. If you want preloader go on to Step 5b-less important for you as your Wii will have bootmii as boot2, but your choice. If you choose to skip preloader, you should use Wad Manager to do Step 5d -those IOSes your games needed are there.

    Under the Optional section of the tutorial-download USB Loader GX and WBFS manager if you are going to use an external HDD. Not part of the standard softmod-so you will have to look-GC Games-look for MIOS patch to run from USB or cMIOS for disc. NeoGamma installed in Step 5d will load GC games, but you can look for Gamecube Backup Launcher too.

    Basic process: cIOS install will their own installer; IOS installed using Wad Manager

    Good Luck.

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    Finally got time today to start more hacking- and taking your advice to follow the updating guide you linked. I am having a strange issue though- I've put the boot.elf (for bootmii) onto the root of my sd card (tried 3 actually) and no matter what I do (renamed it to boot.dol as well) the wii doesn't see it. All I get from the sd card screen is the number of available blocks. I've tried it with my homebrew apps on the card, a totally empty card with only the bootmii on it, and nothing works. It's almost as if something is blocking it. I've used 2 different sandisk cards, and nothing works. I reformatted from fat 16 to fat 32 on one card, and all my homebrew apps work fine from either format. Any ideas? I vaguely recall trying to do something with starfall a long time ago, before I knew much of anything- I see IOS16-64-v247-prod.wad in my wad folder... could this be causing a conflict (I can't remember if it even installed) ? I tried using the wiikey2 update iso to turn off the update block just in case, but that did nothing.

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    I see you have SanDisk SD cards, that's good. After formatting, have nothing but the files that were extracted from the softmodpack download. The files should match those in the link jpg in Step1A. Make sure you have nothing connected to the Wii-all the GC controllers and memory cards are out. No disc in the Wii.

    The SanDisk should be at least 1GB and 2GB is better. If FAT32 format on your PC isn't working, try the Panasonic SD standard FAT formatting link in the softmod tutorial. IOS16 being installed should not be a problem. Not sure if sometimes a modchip might be a source of difficulty-it's so inconsistent that it's hard to tell why an SD card can't be recognized without some error code giving us a hint.

    Also, let's give the latest hackmii package a try: http://wiibrew.org

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    Thanks for any assistance. Well, I'm pretty sure I used the newest hackmii (It says Beta 5 in the readme.txt) I started with one card using fat 16- I tried a freshly formatted fat 32 later. Could my older install of homebrew channel be an issue? I didn't read anything saying it had to be a particular version for it to work. I think I recall reading somewhere that the newest homebrew channel had some issues? (maybe with modchips.... don't recall). Is there another way to launch the boot.elf (or .dol) other than the SD card menu? Can I just put the boot.elf into the app folder, and launch it from homebrew channel?

    Edit: Well, it works just fine from the homebrew channel! I just added an app folder for bootmii (got an icon from the list for it) and it loaded fine. Backing up my nand now. I guess not a single guide I read or could find on Google says this because most peeps do this before installing homebrew.... I chipped and did the install first. Go figure. Now, on to usb loader, etc. I hope this helps anyone else that already has homebrew and wants bootmii after the fact, or has an issue with wiikey 2 not letting the app boot from the sd card (I used the same Sandisk ultra II 2gb card I was trying the whole time- no problem). I just wasn't sure that by starting the app from the homebrew channel that it wouldn't interfere with bootmii being able to write to the sd card correctly, and acess the nand correctly since an app was already running.
    Last edited by XriderBCWii; 10-17-2009 at 02:52 PM.

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    Hello again! Well, I followed your advice gen3sf, and most of it worked fine. I seem to have run into a snag with the cIOS38_rev14 though... the instructions say:

    d) Run cIOS38 r14 installer, select IOS36 as the one it should use and then select wad install.

    Well, as you said in your instructions, I already have Trucha since I'm still at 3.1U, so I skipped the whole IOS15, IOS36 stuff. But, since the loader for IOS38 says to choose the IOS to install under, and it only goes up to 35 (I guess because I didn't put in 36?) so I choose 35, and it gives me an error (-1) code and then reboots without installing (at least with the custom loader). So, I tried installing it with Wad manager 1.5, and it says it installed fine (I chose IOS35 to install as). Did I screw it up? When I run NeogammaR7, it says "no CIOS installed" , so I'm guessing it's looking at 249 and not finding anything? I also used wad manager to install 50,53,55 and of course, neogamma. I'm guessing it's necessary to have the waninkoko loader install cIOS38 not wad manager, but what's with the error, and have I screwed anything up by trying to use wad manager to install the cIOS38_rev14.wad ? I did install the gamecube loader wad, and RVL-mios-R8.wad for gamecube access (does that try to install as 249 also?)- would that cause any conflict? Thanks for any help for a newb.

    edit: well, looks like most of the new stuff is designed only for newer wii's! I just tried installing Hermes 222, and the loader only gave me 38 as the loader choice? Ugh.
    Last edited by XriderBCWii; 10-20-2009 at 03:30 PM.

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