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    Quote Originally Posted by utan View Post
    Hi Jax,

    Your info is very accurate and very helpful I wanted to mention that if he doesn't downgrade he will be fine.. that's all..

    We newcomers appreciate you insight in this kind of stuff..

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    You are "Right" it isn't Necessary to Downgrade, I just want everybody to get as much protection as possible.

    Just in case something fails or if someone forgets to set it up right.
    You never know.

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    I didn't downgrade and i wont..

    hope this helps u .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoMistress View Post
    Can I downgrade at a later time, after I've installed everything else? This way I can see how v4.3 works for myself.

    I have no idea what "maxed out - little extra protection" means.

    Does this apply to me:

    Stubbed ios files are installed by Nintendo durring system update. If a wii is ever downgraded with these stubbed ios in place the wii will brick.
    IOS30-v2816, IOS50-v5120, IOS60-v6400, IOS70-v6912, these are stubbes


    Thanks guys.
    This is straight from the Guide.
    System Menus v4.2 and v4.3 were created simply to remove Homebrew from your Wii. These system menus offer no additional functionality whatsoever. This will install a patched System Menu v4.1 to your Wii. It has been version patched to prevent you, your kids, your neighbors kids, or your live in meddling in-laws from accidentally updating your wonderful softmodded Wii to 4.2 or 4.3.

    You don't have to Downgrade ,if you don't want to.
    That is optional.
    Last edited by Jax; 06-25-2012 at 05:21 PM. Reason: Added More.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jax View Post
    You don't have to Downgrade ,if you don't want to.
    That is optional.
    I know. I want to do what is safest for my Wii, but I also want a functional mod. So if v4.1 is just as safe if not more so than v4.3, and it will give me better functionality, then I'm okay with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by jax View Post
    You are "Right" it isn't Necessary to Downgrade, I just want everybody to get as much protection as possible.

    Just in case something fails or if someone forgets to set it up right.
    You never know.
    So, are you saying that downgrading makes it less likely that my Wii bricks, and it gives me more protection from errors?

    This 'install this, not that; install this but only if that isn't already installed; et cetera' gets confusing.

    Thanks for the link.
    Last edited by PsychoMistress; 06-25-2012 at 05:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoMistress View Post
    I know. I want to do what is safest for my Wii, but I also want a functional mod. So if v4.1 is just as safe if not more so than v4.3, and it will give me better functionality, then I'm okay with that.



    So, are you saying that downgrading makes it less likely that my Wii bricks, and it gives me more protection from errors?

    Thanks for the link.
    I would install it, But remember you don't have to.

    This is what I am talking about....
    System Menus v4.2 and v4.3 were created simply to remove Homebrew from your Wii. These system menus offer no additional functionality whatsoever. This will install a patched System Menu v4.1 to your Wii. It has been version patched to prevent you, your kids, your neighbors kids, or your live in meddling in-laws from accidentally updating your wonderful softmodded Wii to 4.2 or 4.3.

    Please read the guide thoroughly then make that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jax View Post
    I would install it, But remember you don't have to.

    This is what I am talking about....
    System Menus v4.2 and v4.3 were created simply to remove Homebrew from your Wii. These system menus offer no additional functionality whatsoever. This will install a patched System Menu v4.1 to your Wii. It has been version patched to prevent you, your kids, your neighbors kids, or your live in meddling in-laws from accidentally updating your wonderful softmodded Wii to 4.2 or 4.3.

    Please read the guide thoroughly then make that decision.
    Yes, I saw that. It did not make clear that update blocks could only be implemented in certain system menus. In any case, I just went ahead and downgraded, and so far I've gotten one game working on my old NTFS drive with WiiFlow, so no worries. Thanks for your help.

    I would like to know, though, which is the best application to use to play games from my USB HDD? The guide on NTFS Hard Drives makes it difficult to discern an answer given that it's outdated. Also, it keeps referring to corruption of data - is that still an issue now?

    Thank you.

    Edit: Well, it isn't WiiFlow, as it cannot see games that CFG USB Loader can. What's that about?
    Last edited by PsychoMistress; 06-25-2012 at 08:22 PM.

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    I would like to answer a few of the questions that you have been asking, in hopes that it will give you a better understanding about the whats and the whys. You are obviously the type that wants to understand it, not just be told to do it. I'm the same way .

    The version patched system menu in the guide is set at revision 544xx. When N sends out updates, they check for the version number of the IOS and/or SM you are using. Currently, 4.0 to 4.3 run between versions 416 and 518. So, since the patched version is at (for example 4.1U is at 54449), it would not get updated. If priiloader was not set correctly, this can be a sort of "backup" protection. System Menus 4.2 and 4.3 simply killed homebrew through various techniques, without adding any additional functionality. They removed region free capability, and sent stub (blank) IOS to overwrite all the cIOS that various mods had installed, thereby effectively killing the softmod.
    Another way this mauified system menu can help is by providing a patched SM that can be used to assist in brick recovery. If something goes wrong, (ok, fine, not gonna beat around the bush), if someone does something stupid and bricks their Wii, having a patched system menu can greatly increase the chances of recovery.

    Mauifrog designed the Softmod ANY Wii guide with the intentions of doing everything he could to prevent people from bricking. He is very well respected, and is the foremost expert regarding bricks on this and many other forums. So while we say "Yes, the downgrade is optional", we are being honest and saying "Yes, you can run your softmodded Wii without this". It is totally up to the end user if they want to. And you should be happy that you did . I hope I've answered some of your questions.

    NTFS drives - TBH it is personal preference. I have seen a few probs with NTFS, never any with fat32 (that of course based upon the user having a compatible HDD). My personal setup is FAT32, and I will not change that. A big disadvantages to NTFS (IMO) would be that you cant run homebrew apps from an ntfs drive. I have a dedicated FAT32 drive just for my Wii, and thats where I store many of my apps, including my emulated nand. If you are just going to play regular Wii games and not get into much anything else, NTFS "should" be fine.

    Best app? LOL. That is up for debate. Everyone has their favorite, which is why we included all 3 in the ANY Wii guide, so that you could make a decision as to what you like. My opinion is USB Loader GX 3.0. Once again, up to you to decide

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjizzle View Post
    My opinion is USB Loader GX 3.0. Once again, up to you to decide
    What an awesome post... right up until that line. Configurable USB mod FTW.

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    Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me and yes, it does help me understand the workings of the process a little better.

    So far, everything is working just fine. If not, I'm sure I'll be back.

    Thank you all for your help.

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