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    It all depends on how serious the vulnerability is. From what I read, it was a denial of service attack, which do not allow the execution of arbitrary code. In that case, the worst case scenario would be that the game wouldn't work.
    If however it is a vulnerability which allows the execution of arbitrary code, things would look worse, the worst case scenario being an attack which would brick wii's from remote.
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    See, we don't know really how bad it is. Just because this kid couldn't exploit it like that doesn't mean that someone else can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bliepo View Post
    It all depends on how serious the vulnerability is. From what I read, it was a denial of service attack, which do not allow the execution of arbitrary code. In that case, the worst case scenario would be that the game wouldn't work.
    If however it is a vulnerability which allows the execution of arbitrary code, things would look worse, the worst case scenario being an attack which would brick wii's from remote.
    Really? You honestly think that? I think our Wiis are safe seeing as how this pertains to the PC. It's bad enough how much people worry about this kind of stuff on the PC...You don't need to get people worried that the evil hackers are going to remotely brick their Wii. LOL
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    Well, a proof of concept has already been released about a virus being inserted into a backup Wii game. Who's to stop someone from coding something that WILL remotely brick Wii's? The only thing I see that is stopping it now is time. But time always runs out. What if Waninkoko or Hermes weren't so great and instead of making the great apps they released, they tried to figure out a way to burn others? I'm sure we'd all have our Wii's perm disconnected from net.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrumbleyj View Post
    Well, a proof of concept has already been released about a virus being inserted into a backup Wii game. Who's to stop someone from coding something that WILL remotely brick Wii's? The only thing I see that is stopping it now is time. But time always runs out.
    What would the point be? What would the hacker gain? I highly doubt some hacker is even going to take the time try to figure out how to remotely brick your Wii via you being connected to a secure game server. Do you have a link to the proof of concept you are talking about? I've never even heard of anything remotely similar to a Wii virus.

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    What if Waninkoko or Hermes weren't so great and instead of making the great apps they released, they tried to figure out a way to burn others? I'm sure we'd all have our Wii's perm disconnected from net.
    Once again I don't think so. They would ruin their credibility and reputation. I don't quite think you understand the hacking community. A real hacker needs motivation to do what they do. They usually don't do malicious things just because they can....Unless you piss one off. A script kiddie might do something dumb like that if they could to prove they are a 1337 haxor but they lack the technical know how to do so and usually don't cover their tracks well enough so they get caught.
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    I'm not sure if I can hotlink here so... here's the links...

    hxxp://venturebeat.com/2010/07/31/live-demos-of-hacking-the-nintendo-ds-and-the-wii-to-spread-malware/

    hxxp://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:YfEKW3yno9QJ:hakim.ws/DEFCON18/Chan-Joo/DEFCON-18-Chan-Joo-Malware-to-Gaming-Consoles.pdf+wii+malware&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid= ADGEESiZzH77eJ7107jOsuUbU9RYWh6LD6w2JUxDXVGWfxHCK6 oMP69AkLGt9a4O3WKNTg-C62hMpVPG72oKRUJskpmWNTgbTt7XUCbH0KP4Gr_g0uIYQHH91 rHnZ3N9Ivk2VynqkAf0&sig=AHIEtbSPqXIaDIi_WKQXtfoiQS wjeGnZ4A

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrumbleyj View Post
    I'm not sure if I can hotlink here so... here's the links...

    hxxp://venturebeat.com/2010/07/31/live-demos-of-hacking-the-nintendo-ds-and-the-wii-to-spread-malware/

    hxxp://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:YfEKW3yno9QJ:hakim.ws/DEFCON18/Chan-Joo/DEFCON-18-Chan-Joo-Malware-to-Gaming-Consoles.pdf+wii+malware&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid= ADGEESiZzH77eJ7107jOsuUbU9RYWh6LD6w2JUxDXVGWfxHCK6 oMP69AkLGt9a4O3WKNTg-C62hMpVPG72oKRUJskpmWNTgbTt7XUCbH0KP4Gr_g0uIYQHH91 rHnZ3N9Ivk2VynqkAf0&sig=AHIEtbSPqXIaDIi_WKQXtfoiQS wjeGnZ4A
    Nice. I missed that. They are ultimately not attacking the Wii but the network it's attached to unless I misunderstood. I still believe our Wii's are safe from hacker attacks.
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    They still are... for now.

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    @Darkcide666 I fully understand the hacking community. But I also fully understand that some people are just evil. If they weren't, then there wouldn't be as many viruses in the wild as there are now. When I talked about Wanin and Hermes, I was meaning that if, instead of writing the great apps they have written, they had poured their talents into malicious content. We would all be screwed. As far as motivation needed, if they like to make trouble for others, that may be all the motivation they need. The knowledge that they just screwed 1000+ people and there's nothing that anyone can do about it.

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