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    Smile Wasabi V2 vs D2Pro9 vs Argon vs D2sun V3

    Hey guys,

    I have a Wii that dates from 02/2008, and it should have a D2C - chip.

    After reading hundreds of reactions about what chip to take I'm really going nuts here

    this is what I've come up so far: (PS: it has to be solderless !!)

    Wasabi V3

    Pro's
    - rock solid
    - little or no bugs (however someone said it doesn't work on some wii's for an unexplainable reason?)
    - "futureproof" with a bigger memory capacity
    - DVD update possible

    Con's
    - no Jtag update possible (but how necessarily is this actually?)

    D2Pro9
    Pro's
    - very good support team, lots of updates, etc
    - jtag & DVD upgradability
    - much preferred by sellers

    Con's
    - it also requires lots of updates aka somehow less stable
    - you need a seperate Jtag updater... Don't think I'll ever buy (or need?) this

    D2sun
    - no idea (USB-update possible if I'm not mistaken)

    Argon
    - no idea

    If someone could help me out here, I'd be very, and I mean -very-, thankful (and the misses too! )

    PS: I have no problem with regular updates, I'm familiar with upgrading the f/w of my devices, but if it can be stable from the first second, why bother?

    PS2: is this correct:
    " Wasabi and D2pro will both take dvd updates - but only for drivecode. FPGA on wasabi can't be upgraded...

    That said, you shouldn't ever need to upgrade it. Unless you want to use the chip in a (yet to be released) drive model... ie D2C -> D2C2 update needed new FPGA code. "

    Obviously this will never be the case... in my situation for sure
    However, if it's possible it will need an upgrade because game copy protections (from dl/ed games?), than I'll consider the D2pro9

    PS3 : Any info which is the most compatible with DVD+R's ? (I have Sony DVD+R discs..)
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    I would rule out Argon as it had a lot of potential but it all fizzeled away and not really marketed anymore.

    Regarding the other three, you basically have all the Pros and Cons for each one listed so its a matter of what makes you comfortable. They are all strong well supported chips. The D2Sun has recently become the flavour of the month as it is at a lower price point than the other two, besides that they all do the same thing, which is to allow you to play backups on your wii.

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    I bought a solderless D2Pro9 since it's updatable and the easiest for me, but who knows.

    I was being told it sucks and I need a D2Sun since it's all the craze.

    All up to you.

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    D2Sun -> seems good, but heard very little of it

    D2pro9 -> do you need to buy something extra to do the "updates" ?

    Wasabi -> seems good... but no jtag..

    On the "mod chip chart" the D2pro9 > Wasabi and D2Sun isn't even on there..

    oh boy

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    I'll only mention on the D2Pro9 since it's what I have:

    There's 2 types of updates, Software and Hardware.

    The Software is a ISO you burn on a DVD, put it in the Wii, and update

    The Hardware is a USB Programmer that updates the very firmare of the chip.

    If news bugs happen, there'll be a new DVD update to fix it, probably.

    I don't think you have to update the firmware all that often.

    I know for sure that Canadamods update the chip for you so you don't have a problem, most seller do I think.

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    For solderless :

    Wasabi V3

    Pro's
    - rock solid
    - little or no bugs (however someone said it doesn't work on some wii's for an unexplainable reason?)
    - "futureproof" with a bigger memory capacity
    - DVD update possible

    Con's
    - no Jtag update possible (but how necessarily is this actually?)

    That is correct, the wasabi is very solid and stable, its a great choice if you have a d2c or d2c2. For d2e there is a slight possiblity it won't work on some.

    D2Pro9
    Pro's
    - very good support team, lots of updates, etc
    - jtag & DVD upgradability
    - much preferred by sellers

    Con's
    - it also requires lots of updates aka somehow less stable
    - you need a seperate Jtag updater... Don't think I'll ever buy (or need?) this
    The latest version of the d2pro9 (v3 with 2.3/1.6) if iinstalled correctly works very well, and is stable, so it shouldn't be an issue). The jtag updater can be looked at as a pro and con I guess. Pro its an additional way to program the chip, fully programmable, and con that it will cost extra for it, but its not needed right now.

    D2sun
    - no idea (USB-update possible if I'm not mistaken)
    Depending on the version you get there are different pros/cons
    1.31/1.5 are non updatable (or not stated), where 3.xxx is updatable vis usb using nero programmer (seperate purchase). Since it is new we don't know too much on how future support will be, but for now it works fine.

    Argon
    - no idea
    If you don't mind updates that are stolen from other chips and 10 years later

    PS: I have no problem with regular updates, I'm familiar with upgrading the f/w of my devices, but if it can be stable from the first second, why bother?
    True, I think all chips right now if getting the latest version are fairly stable.

    PS2: is this correct:
    " Wasabi and D2pro will both take dvd updates - but only for drivecode. FPGA on wasabi can't be upgraded...

    That said, you shouldn't ever need to upgrade it. Unless you want to use the chip in a (yet to be released) drive model... ie D2C -> D2C2 update needed new FPGA code. "

    Obviously this will never be the case... in my situation for sure
    However, if it's possible it will need an upgrade because game copy protections (from dl/ed games?), than I'll consider the D2pro9
    Its a hard case to tell, I like the fact d2pro9 has the ability just in case. But I am sure wasabi will come up with a way if/when it comes to it.
    PS3 : Any info which is the most compatible with DVD+R's ? (I have Sony DVD+R discs..)
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    The Verbatim dvd-r is probably one of the best choices, made in singapore/japan. I have heard some had success with Sony brand though, but how good they really are is questionable, as it depends what dye is used.
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    quick update, Wasabi released their update which addresses the fix for those that get any problems on d2e, so a major contender to consider
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    Since you just about listed all the popular modchips, might as well throw in the new wiikey2 in there which is DVD updatable which you seem to care about. =P

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