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    Yea, the books for dummys are probably the most widely used in the world. And when you hear that, you know it is gonna cover the bases and explain it, as though you know nothing.
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    Nice, reminds me of when I was first learning of crypto and my first remote buffer overflow attack... (all trial and error for me )

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    Thank you for your post, good job...

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    Yes it is, so is your lovely spam.
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    so is this why the errors occur sometimes in homebrew, because security kicks back in?... also is it possible to crack the software doing these checks (like bypassing noCD with a hex editor and debugger. because this would remove the need for trucha altogether)

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    Sorry, today you don't win a prize. This is not a PC (lol, no-CD checks lmao).

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    while im sure that post was infinitely helpful to you, a wii is a microprocessor-based system, so it can debug, it uses firmware and the fundamentals of overriding software checks in firmware can be performed and while I'll admit I did dumb-down my response, I am fully aware the system is not a pc, I was just saying how much more helpful it would be to flash or update the firmware than work around it im sure the wii has a nop equivalent

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    so is this why the errors occur sometimes in homebrew, because security kicks back in?...
    No this isn't why errors occur. Once anything is installed to the NAND including The Home Brew Channel, it is encrypted with the console's keys and therefore passes any Wii security checks and is free to run anything it wants. The buffer overrun exploits are only needed to bypass security initially to install HBC however they are no longer needed after that. The security is more like a locked door, once you're in, you're in. It doesn't keep checking the software for validity.

    also is it possible to crack the software doing these checks (like bypassing noCD with a hex editor and debugger. because this would remove the need for trucha altogether)
    The Hollywood processor has an OTP core called Starlet which is in charge of this type of security. The OTP (or One Time Programmable section) can not be reprogrammed and unfortunately can't be bypassed without a Trucha IOS or with some sort of buffer overrun. If there is some other way, I'm sure it's much more involved than any of our current methods.
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    Nice writeup Streamlinehd. I'll have to read this over a few times to really absorb it. All this stuff aint really new to me,
    but I guess from a wiispective it is. lol!!

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    Great writing,
    Streamlinehd,
    i like the title. Dummies series are universal and in every bootkstore. lol
    would you mind if i compy a translation for 1 Asia district and quoted your name ?
    Last edited by billyhome; 12-28-2010 at 11:38 PM.

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