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    NSMB update overwrites boot2?

    Hello,

    This is more of an observation than a question. I have bootmii installed as boot2. When NSMB Wii came out, I ran the disk on my Wii and did the two updates it prompted me to do (I have a chip so I don't really care about updating, I had to use Geckos with the special cheat file to get the game running though).

    Anyways, since I always have my Wii boot into bootmii first before running the system menu, I noticed that after the NSMB update, the bootmii screen didn't come up anymore. I had my SD card inserted like always. I also took the SD card out and powered on my Wii and I noticed the blue light flashed only once instead of twice... my bootmii boot2 had disappeared!

    So I simply had to run bannerbomb and reinstall bootmii as boot2 again and everything is fine, but I found it curious that the NSMB updates seemed to have overwritten my boot2. I noticed on Wiibrew that this issue is not mentioned in the system menu 4.1 article.

    Did anyone else observe this? I am just curious.

    Thanks.

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    The disc updates dont actually overwrite your softmod, it just simply removes them but not all. It even says in the manual for the game that any modifications to the console could be erased. So it obviously removed your bootmii application. This is why you should never do a nintendo update if you softmodded your console in any way. It wont brick the console but you can lose some if not all homebrew applications. In your case, you lost bootmii. You actually could have lost more but cant see by looking at it. There are times when you wont lose neogamma, but youll lose ios249 and the cios you had installed. The only time when updating through nintendo can be done without any side affects is if you just have a modchip and no softmod done at all. If your console updated to 4.2, your lucky it didnt brick. Nintendo's 4.2 update can detect softmod console and purposly bricks them.
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    Proof that it can detect softmods?

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    Could it be that Nintendo found the time to do this (seeing as how they didn't have the time to put a 4.2 disc update on the game, but a 4.1)? I wonder if this could be a freak thing. If games start killing boot2 then I'm going to regress back to my atari days until everything is fixed.

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    You havent read about that update bricking consoles? It was so bad that it would even brick consoles that werent softmodded. People would send their wiis back to nintendo and get brand new ones because it was nintendo's fault. Ive read that on like 5 websites.
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    You said it detects the softmod yet theres no proof since people with no softmod where being bricked.

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    One place I read about it was on this site. Saying not to upgrade to 4.2 if you have softmod, but that if you have it chipped, youll be fine. That was when 4.2 was first released. There were also threads that were started where people didnt listen and upgraded to 4.2 and bricked. I had also read a thread where someone who didnt mod their wii at all, bricked. Im just going from what i read on here and other sites. And obviously the updates can detect softmods because people do disc updates and lose some homebrew applications. Theres threads about that too. Maybe "detect" was the wrong word to use, but it does happen.
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    they cant detect softmods they just reinstall the whole FW which inturn deletes the cIOS's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkmailturds View Post
    Could it be that Nintendo found the time to do this (seeing as how they didn't have the time to put a 4.2 disc update on the game, but a 4.1)? I wonder if this could be a freak thing. If games start killing boot2 then I'm going to regress back to my atari days until everything is fixed.
    Ah. I was referring to the update on the nsmb disc screwing with homebrew since it's only a 4.1 update. I remember a bunch of people getting bricked who weren't modded from 4.2.

    Has anyone else here experienced what mojodog's post was asking? NSMB somehow removing boot2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkmailturds View Post
    Ah. I was referring to the update on the nsmb disc screwing with homebrew since it's only a 4.1 update. I remember a bunch of people getting bricked who weren't modded from 4.2.

    Has anyone else here experienced what mojodog's post was asking? NSMB somehow removing boot2?
    ive only seen it mentioned twice.

    I can see how its possible, as the update partitions contain the boot2v4.wad. But ive also seen many people update form the NSMB disc and have no problems.

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