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    Quote:
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    Make sure you have the WBFS partition as active and primary.

    As USB Loader GX loads up, your installation of a custom IOS would appear to be OK and the channel install version of USB Loader GX seems to functional, but lets' check to see if it's just a superficial appearance. Please also install a .dol version of USB Loader GX. Create a Folder and name it something like USBLOaderGX, copy the boot.dol from the download depository you were exploring and run USB Loader GX from HBC. If that still won't install your original game discs. Install another USB Loader and try that-if that fails-we go back to the HDD. YOu already made sure it was designated as active and primary. Check to make sure the WBF partition is the First partition. Check to see that there is no hidden first partition-some Mac drives have that, some internal drives too. I presume you checked the drive against both compatibility lists-and the drive is fully compatible-some HDDs on the gbattemp site are a little iffy-read the comments to make sure your drive is OK.

    If so, then reinstall WBFS Mgr and reformat that drive and do it all over again. Good luck.
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    Thanks gen3sf. A little more info:

    -the drive is a WD Passport Essential and does show as compatible.

    -interestingly this drive comes with a CDFS partition (impossible to remove) containing supplied backup software from WD. I've done the best I can to eliminate the partition with every tool and trick I know but to no avail. I've finally resorted to WD tech support's suggestion of updating the f/w on the drive and using a tool they have to hide the partition. At this stage no OS I mount this drive to can see the partition (OS X Win 7 Linux, Solaris) but I know it is still there. I don't think it is an issue however as I have been successful in downloading backups via bittorrent and playing them. My only issue so far is dumping my own DVDs.

    -I am not using a WBFS partition. I have a single FAT32 partition. I'm using the latest GX (according to the Update function) and Wii Backup Manager to load the iso images into a WBFS folder on the FAT32 partition. Do you think it might be possible that while GX supports FAT32 the capability to dump to a FAT32 partition is broken?

    -having gotten nowhere with GX I decided to try a few other dump tools and have had no luck so far:
    1)DVD Dumper v1.2. This errors out, and aborts to HBC after trying to start the dump. Up to that point it sees the USB drive, DVD etc.
    2)Super Dump v1.3. I'm running into the 99% problem attributed to cIOS38rev14. (I'd love to get this figured out as this tool is FAST...a Wii SL DVD dumps in about 11.5 minutes)
    3)Wii Dump v1.5.1. This tool errors out with a Can't read sector error (or something similar) at the tail end of the dump. Google seems to indicate that this is a similar issue to the issue with Super Dump. This tool seems to be the best thought out approach. After dumping all the bin segments it generates an IFO and .bat script to copy b/ them to an ISO. I'm also interested to see this tool functional.

    Tomorrow I'll try to uninstall cIOS38rev14 and install rev13b per recommendations I've found out there. You never know...maybe the built in tool in GX has also been bitten by the rev14 bug.

    BTW why must I submit a "Quote Post" reply for approval where as I can "Quick Reply" no problem? Is that some sort of initiation put on newcomers or something? Rather than wait for that I just copied the "Quote Post" preview prior to submitting and pasted it into this Quick Reply....hope you don't mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamah View Post
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    Make sure you have the WBFS partition as active and primary.

    As USB Loader GX loads up, your installation of a custom IOS would appear to be OK and the channel install version of USB Loader GX seems to functional, but lets' check to see if it's just a superficial appearance. Please also install a .dol version of USB Loader GX. Create a Folder and name it something like USBLOaderGX, copy the boot.dol from the download depository you were exploring and run USB Loader GX from HBC. If that still won't install your original game discs. Install another USB Loader and try that-if that fails-we go back to the HDD. YOu already made sure it was designated as active and primary. Check to make sure the WBF partition is the First partition. Check to see that there is no hidden first partition-some Mac drives have that, some internal drives too. I presume you checked the drive against both compatibility lists-and the drive is fully compatible-some HDDs on the gbattemp site are a little iffy-read the comments to make sure your drive is OK.

    If so, then reinstall WBFS Mgr and reformat that drive and do it all over again. Good luck.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Thanks gen3sf. A little more info:

    -the drive is a WD Passport Essential and does show as compatible.

    -interestingly this drive comes with a CDFS partition (impossible to remove) containing supplied backup software from WD. I've done the best I can to eliminate the partition with every tool and trick I know but to no avail. I've finally resorted to WD tech support's suggestion of updating the f/w on the drive and using a tool they have to hide the partition. At this stage no OS I mount this drive to can see the partition (OS X Win 7 Linux, Solaris) but I know it is still there. I don't think it is an issue however as I have been successful in downloading backups via bittorrent and playing them. My only issue so far is dumping my own DVDs.

    -I am not using a WBFS partition. I have a single FAT32 partition. I'm using the latest GX (according to the Update function) and Wii Backup Manager to load the iso images into a WBFS folder on the FAT32 partition. Do you think it might be possible that while GX supports FAT32 the capability to dump to a FAT32 partition is broken?

    -having gotten nowhere with GX I decided to try a few other dump tools and have had no luck so far:
    1)DVD Dumper v1.2. This errors out, and aborts to HBC after trying to start the dump. Up to that point it sees the USB drive, DVD etc.
    2)Super Dump v1.3. I'm running into the 99% problem attributed to cIOS38rev14. (I'd love to get this figured out as this tool is FAST...a Wii SL DVD dumps in about 11.5 minutes)
    3)Wii Dump v1.5.1. This tool errors out with a Can't read sector error (or something similar) at the tail end of the dump. Google seems to indicate that this is a similar issue to the issue with Super Dump. This tool seems to be the best thought out approach. After dumping all the bin segments it generates an IFO and .bat script to copy b/ them to an ISO. I'm also interested to see this tool functional.

    Tomorrow I'll try to uninstall cIOS38rev14 and install rev13b per recommendations I've found out there. You never know...maybe the built in tool in GX has also been bitten by the rev14 bug.

    BTW why must I submit a "Quote Post" reply for approval where as I can "Quick Reply" no problem? Is that some sort of initiation put on newcomers or something? Rather than wait for that I just copied the "Quote Post" preview prior to submitting and pasted it into this Quick Reply....hope you don't mind.
    Oh, that is the issue-using the FAT32 you cannot directly install your original games to the HDD-it's not broken-it's not there. USB Loader GX will read an ISO from the FAT32 partition, but not install it. You do know that an ISO will be 4.37GB vs WBFS Mgr stripping away all the extraneous crap for a smaller file, right? Example WBFS formatted drive- Avatar file is 1.75GB; Gravity 0.14GB.

    I don't mind and did not know of any screening function for quoting posts.

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    @gen3sf

    Of course! That would make sense. It would be far more complex I suppose to have GX dump directly to the WBFS folder as WBFS files (although that would make a cool Feature Enchancement).

    I may reformat my drive to WBFS just to see what the dump performance is from GX. Any idea what I might expect?

    On another issue would this somehow explain another problem I'm having? I can't seem to have the images and config dirs on the FAT32 partition of the USB drive. It seems I have to have an SD in the slot to get GX working. Even after confirming the paths are correct in the settings.

    Thanks again.
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    To install a game to the WBFS drive using USB Loader GX generally takes no more than 15-20 minutes and sometimes considerably less. That cover problem despite changing the path just is a darn nuisiance of a bug that just keeps popping up on some Wiis.

    Sometimes, deleting the main USB Loader GX configuration file, running USB Loader GX and then changing the paths works.

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    Thank you excellent guide!!!

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    Worked like a champ....thanks a mil.

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    Thanks gen3, I am going to try to see what other loaders I can use. I did say uloader as a shorthand (more or less because I could not remember what I was using, lol). It seems to me that the more I read the more people I find that try 2 or 3 loaders. I will do this and should have before posting.

    I did play through 20 or so matches with only the occaisonal problem so I am thinking is is the laoder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gen3sf View Post
    To install a game to the WBFS drive using USB Loader GX generally takes no more than 15-20 minutes and sometimes considerably less. That cover problem despite changing the path just is a darn nuisiance of a bug that just keeps popping up on some Wiis.

    Sometimes, deleting the main USB Loader GX configuration file, running USB Loader GX and then changing the paths works.
    gen3sf

    Turns out that in my case at any rate, directly installing games from GX is far faster than any dump app I tried. Added bonus is that this method is not impacted in any way with the "99% complete" problems associated with IOS38rev14, so no downgrade to rev13b was required. In addition I don't have to run back and forth from my desktop to combine bin files into an iso and use a file manager to load the USB drive, this is waaay more convenient. All-in-all going with the traditional WBFS partition and using GX seems to be the most complete and best performing solution for me. I could find no way to make all the images, config, etc. paths use the USB as GX insisted on having a SD card in place to write to. No biggie, I need a SD in place anyway for other HBC apps.

    Thanks again.

    BTW the problem I was having quoting a post was because I was clicking the "Quote Post" button on the post I wanted to quote. If instead I click "Quick Reply" from the post I want to quote and then click the "Quote message in reply" radio button just below the text box I get the result I was looking for. Not typical for other forums I use but there it is.
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    my daughter scratched my only version of one of my games, so I downloaded it, but can only find prescrubbed versions. I am trying to follow the steps for wbfs manager, but because it is prescrubbed, there is only one file, and it is not showing .iso---what do I need to do in order to transfer this (compressed) file to WBFS?

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