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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrohusband View Post
    Thanks for all the help guys. I know have a successful Wii HDD. Is there someone that could direct me a tutorial for loading the disc labels and the covers onto my usb loader GX? Thanks in advance for any help.
    If you got internet on your wii just press 1 on the wii mote when in usb loader gx and you can download from there,But first make a folder called Images/covers on your sd or usb where ever you want them to be saved.Go in custom paths select that folder for 3d,2d,and disc cover then download and they should load.

    if you dont have internet go to WiiTDB - Nintendo Wii games database | Home and download then put them in the images/covers folder

    Create the folder on the root of your sd/usb
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicho711 View Post
    first off thanks for the great guide! ive been searching and reading for just about 4 hours now and still cant quite find and answer to my question. I loaded Namco museum trough usb loader gx and when i tried loading it.. it would freeze my system or give me a black screen.... ive learned this is because I dont have ios33. but cant find it also if i were to scrub this iso would this solve my problem?

    thanks in advance.

    IOS33-64-v3091.wad hers the newest ver of ios33 put it in wad folder on your sd load hbc open wad manager select /ios249/load from sd

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    Hello all, i wasnt to sure where to post this and didnt want to start a new thread.
    Am using USBLoader GX to rip my games to hdd, and being successful at every attempt, thing is i wanted an actual backup on my PC.
    So using WBFS i transferred the iso to my desktop, and procedded to patch ios with ios patcher to 249, but it couldnt find the info, so i went through USBLoaders settings and came across 1.1 option (figured it was bit for bit and it is) ripped mario kart and turns out to 8.75 gigs or so (beats me as its a single layer disc) transferred to pc and opened with ios patcher and changed the ios to 249, great stuff! But... am stuck with a massive file size so i placed it back on my WBFS drive which correct me if am wrong scrubs the file, once that finished i once again copyed it back to my pc and its a healty 4.37gigs and ios patcher reads its ios as 249, brilliant! Perfect backup!
    ...But this took me nearly an hour and a half to do this...!
    My question is, is there any faster way to do this...? other than buying a pc drive that reads wii discs

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    @Sudds - Could be the patching is causing the problem of file size error. Patching, scrubbing, etc of the the original game iso file is not often needed anymore. The loaders mostly handle those functions now. Try just using WBFS Mgr to create the ISO from the WBFS game file and nothing else. No IOS249 patching, it is not required. It does take a long time though to work with WBFS to ISO or to to clone a WBFS to WBFS drive as a game HDD backup. There is no getting around the slowness issue of WBFS, but the extra step of IOS patching is not needed and may save a few corrupted files in your future.

    If you have a lot of games on the WBFS drive and do not plan to merely clone your WBFS HDD but want the files in a format able to be used and seen by your PC, consider .ciso or even scrubbed ISO itself on FAT32 drives. .ciso is a compressed ISO format that WBFS Mgr does not recognize, but ncWBFSTools and WBFS Intelligent GUI and GameMgr do-take a look and see if those might meet your needs better. Also consider scrubbed and compressed ISO game files on FAT32 as most of the USB Loaders will now recognize files on a FAT-formatted HDD/partition. This guide is focused only on the WBFS Mgr, but that does not mean that it is necessarily the best for all Wii owners.

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    Hi guys. Great Forum and tutorials!... Earlier today I SoftModded my Brand New Wii (<24Hrs Since out of Box), and I succcessfully completed Steps A - C of the "Full Hacking Guide for 4.2 System Menus", which is Referenced in the first step of this Tutorial.. Then I went through all the steps in this tutorial as well..

    However, when I went to open USB Loader GX it says that it cannot find any WBFS or NTFS/FAT partitions and asks if I'd like to select one or format. If I choose either option it then lists 4 partitions, but each one says that it cannot be formatted... I tried using Configurable USB Loader as well, and I got a similar result....

    The hard drive that I am using is a Fujitsu MHV2080AT 80GB with a Coolmax 2.5" enclosure HD-211... I know that neither of these specific pieces of hardware are on the "USB Compatability List", but the smaller, similar Fujitsu MHT2060AT 60GB is on the list... I would like to know if there's anything else I can try to make this drive/enclosure work??

    Edit: I originally tried a Rosewill case RX81U-ES-25B, which did not even allow me to load USB Loader... My hard Drive is formatted in 2 Partitions, a large WBFS, and a smaller NTFS... The WBFS program for the Mac recognises the WBFS partition as well... I tried with several jumper settings on the drive: "Cable Select" and "Drive 0", both had the same result...

    Finally, I noticed that all of the instructions mention pre-loading games, and making sure that you have loaded games that do not have any problems... I don't have any games pre-loaded onto the drive, as I was just hoping to backup my current collection and take advantage of faster load times, and not having to switch discs. Could this be my problem?? Do games have to be PRE-LOADED onto the drive for the USB Loader Program to recognize it???
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    @firstorbit - installing your game disc to your Wii HDD via the WiiDrive is actually ideal because you have no risk of a bad game ISO. However you have 2 possible sources for your current problems:

    1. As your Wii is brand new, most of the Wiis of recent manufacture have a D3-2 chip that Nintendo uses to prevent the reading of DVD-R discs. If you are trying to install Wii games from a backup disc, the Wii Drive is blocked from reading a backup disc. You should be able to install your original game discs except for your problems with HDD/enclosures. The brief instructions for installing from disc are in the guide under the rip header I think-it's short because it's very easy to do when the HDD and USB Loader are both working.

    2. Two very problem-prone situations for Wii owners trying to play from an external HDD, the old Seagate drives and any internal HDD/enclosure combination. That does not mean that it is impossible, some can work, it's just that most do not. One significant problem for internal drives is that the Wii is not a PC and does not send the expected signals back to the HDD. Many internal HDDs enter a sleep or powerdown cycle to save energy not being able to detect that you are , in fact, in the middle of defeating a BOSS. As you have aready played with the jumper settings, I'm not sure there is anything else too recommend hardware wise.

    However, you also mentioned using WBFS Manager for Mac - a number of the Apple or Mac HDDs have a hidden partition-look for that and delete. If there is a hidden first partition, WBFS Mgr is not the first partition as it requires.

    Last chance to make your HDD/enclosure combo work. Don't use WBFS Mgr from your PC. Rather, format the first drive partition as FAT32 and allow it to be formatted by the Wii, not the PC. Warning-even if that works, be prepared for future failures to see the HDD games because I don;t think your HDD/enclosure combo is truly compatible and also HDD formatting using Wii apps just doesn't seem to meet all the PC standards and those HDDs have an increased tendency to lose files or not be readable by a desktop version of WBFS Mgr. So this last suggestion is just to hold you until you can save up for a more truly compatible HDD.

    Good luck to you if you decide to keep working at your old internal HDD/enclosure combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gen3sf View Post
    @firstorbit - installing your game disc to your Wii HDD via the WiiDrive is actually ideal because you have no risk of a bad game ISO. However you have 2 possible sources for your current problems:

    1. As your Wii is brand new, most of the Wiis of recent manufacture have a D3-2 chip that Nintendo uses to prevent the reading of DVD-R discs. If you are trying to install Wii games from a backup disc, the Wii Drive is blocked from reading a backup disc. You should be able to install your original game discs except for your problems with HDD/enclosures. The brief instructions for installing from disc are in the guide under the rip header I think-it's short because it's very easy to do when the HDD and USB Loader are both working.

    2. Two very problem-prone situations for Wii owners trying to play from an external HDD, the old Seagate drives and any internal HDD/enclosure combination. That does not mean that it is impossible, some can work, it's just that most do not. One significant problem for internal drives is that the Wii is not a PC and does not send the expected signals back to the HDD. Many internal HDDs enter a sleep or powerdown cycle to save energy not being able to detect that you are , in fact, in the middle of defeating a BOSS. As you have aready played with the jumper settings, I'm not sure there is anything else too recommend hardware wise.

    However, you also mentioned using WBFS Manager for Mac - a number of the Apple or Mac HDDs have a hidden partition-look for that and delete. If there is a hidden first partition, WBFS Mgr is not the first partition as it requires.

    Last chance to make your HDD/enclosure combo work. Don't use WBFS Mgr from your PC. Rather, format the first drive partition as FAT32 and allow it to be formatted by the Wii, not the PC. Warning-even if that works, be prepared for future failures to see the HDD games because I don;t think your HDD/enclosure combo is truly compatible and also HDD formatting using Wii apps just doesn't seem to meet all the PC standards and those HDDs have an increased tendency to lose files or not be readable by a desktop version of WBFS Mgr. So this last suggestion is just to hold you until you can save up for a more truly compatible HDD.

    Good luck to you if you decide to keep working at your old internal HDD/enclosure combination.
    Wow. Thanks so much for the detailed response. So, I tried the last jumper setting on the Fujitsu, which was "Device 1" (force slave), and then the PC didn't even like the drive anymore so I changed it back and gave up on making that drive work with the Wii.

    Then, tonight, I pulled a 75GB Hitachi Travelstar (HTS541080G9AT00) out of an old Dell Laptop, and tried it in the Coolmax enclosure.... But to no avail.. Several of the Hitachi Travelstar models and its close cousins are all over the GBA compatability list, so I figured it was worth a shot...

    This time however, the drive activity light would blink quite a bit more when loading USB Loader, but then it would just never do anything past the white screen with my cursor on it, and the drive activity light would blink once every couple seconds until I was forced to shut the Wii down...

    I thought it might be a power issue, because the drive would do a single blink less frequently when plugged into only one usb port, but it would blink twice in a row, more frequently when I plugged in the extra power pigtail to the other USB port... I even tried plugging the power pigtail into a laptop instead of the Wii to see if I could give it any more juice... but it just did the same thing... There is a DC power port on the enclosure, but I don't have an AC adapter that fits to test if it makes a difference...

    I also have a 3.5" powered enclosure, which I could give a try, but no 3.5" to 2.5" IDE adapter... There's a 1TB WD MyBook that just popped up on Craigslist for $60, so I'm gonna try to snag that tomorrow... Otherwise I think I'll spring for the $10 3.5" to 2.5" IDE adapter and keep playing with what I've got...

    Finally, I was at least able to determine that I correctly Softmodded the Wii, and that USB Loader does indeed work... I just grabbed a 2GB HP USB Thumb Drive that I had laying around and used it for now. I was able to successfully format it to WBFS and USB Loader recognized it immediately.. The only games I could fit on it though were New Super Mario, and TCC Snowboarding... both only took up about a Gig.. Everything else I've got said it would take up about 1.5-2GB when I tried to install them... So, in the meantime I can begin moving my games over to my desktop HDD one by one so that they're ready to load up onto the compatible external HDD, when I do get one that works...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gen3sf View Post
    @firstorbit - installing your game disc to your Wii HDD via the WiiDrive is actually ideal because you have no risk of a bad game ISO. However you have 2 possible sources for your current problems:

    1. As your Wii is brand new, most of the Wiis of recent manufacture have a D3-2 chip that Nintendo uses to prevent the reading of DVD-R discs. If you are trying to install Wii games from a backup disc, the Wii Drive is blocked from reading a backup disc. You should be able to install your original game discs except for your problems with HDD/enclosures. The brief instructions for installing from disc are in the guide under the rip header I think-it's short because it's very easy to do when the HDD and USB Loader are both working.

    2. Two very problem-prone situations for Wii owners trying to play from an external HDD, the old Seagate drives and any internal HDD/enclosure combination. That does not mean that it is impossible, some can work, it's just that most do not. One significant problem for internal drives is that the Wii is not a PC and does not send the expected signals back to the HDD. Many internal HDDs enter a sleep or powerdown cycle to save energy not being able to detect that you are , in fact, in the middle of defeating a BOSS. As you have aready played with the jumper settings, I'm not sure there is anything else too recommend hardware wise.

    However, you also mentioned using WBFS Manager for Mac - a number of the Apple or Mac HDDs have a hidden partition-look for that and delete. If there is a hidden first partition, WBFS Mgr is not the first partition as it requires.

    Last chance to make your HDD/enclosure combo work. Don't use WBFS Mgr from your PC. Rather, format the first drive partition as FAT32 and allow it to be formatted by the Wii, not the PC. Warning-even if that works, be prepared for future failures to see the HDD games because I don;t think your HDD/enclosure combo is truly compatible and also HDD formatting using Wii apps just doesn't seem to meet all the PC standards and those HDDs have an increased tendency to lose files or not be readable by a desktop version of WBFS Mgr. So this last suggestion is just to hold you until you can save up for a more truly compatible HDD.

    Good luck to you if you decide to keep working at your old internal HDD/enclosure combination.
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    well this tutorial is helpfull as far as configuring your HDD goes, but lacking info on how to install the USB loader, and other (if theres other) Wii side software...

    do i just install USB loader with wad manager like that neogamma thing at the end of the 3.1-4.1 hacking tut? any other Wii side things i need to do to make this work? (i did everything the http://www.wiihacks.com/recommended-...d-any-wii.html tutorial said)

    allso, do i copy JUST the contents of this RAR to my SD card or do i keep the files i put on it during the 3.1-4.1 tut? this is confusing and im afraid to experiment :P *fears the brick*

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    @Dudu - yes, it is true that this guide continues from the softmodding guides. When going through the process of softmodding your Wii, it is expected that one would learn that .wad files are installed using the Wad Mgr and boot.dol files are inside a named application folder and placed inside the Apps folder.

    It sounds like you kept all your files from the softmod on your SD card, if you recall, the 3.1-4.1 tutorial stated that no files are needed after a successful completion of the softmod tutorial. That being said. most folks like to have HBC display something more than the empty bubbling screen and so, from the softmod, retain Wad Manager inside the Apps folder and also handy to keep a Wad folder for .wad files you might want to install in the future...or now.

    Make sure you put your NAND backup files somewhere secure, remove the boot.elf and Private folder from the SD card or you wil have conflicts. If you wish to install USB Loader GX as a channel, then yes, do install the .wad file for usbloader gx using Wad Manager. Among the other folders are ones for you to keep 2D, 3D and CD images of the games to be displayed on the USB Loader menu.

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