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    Exclamation USB drive compatability and questions

    Sorry for the following dumb questions...I'm rather new to homebrew.

    I want to use a USB drive to load my games, I have hacked my wii with the bannerbomb exploit and I have homebrew loaded. the system is still on 4.0U, and I really don't know all of the files that I used to get the HB loaded. As silly as it sounds I just followed some guys tutorial on uTube. He had all the files tar'd up in one bundle, so i just sat down and followed the steps...voila.

    The downside of my approach is that I have no idea what I really did. I'm not sure what versions of which files I loaded up...but it works, so I'm fairly happy.

    The next thing I did was load bootmii and do a NAND backup. Not sure if this was smart or not, but that's what I did.

    I loaded DVDx hoping that I could just play some burned ISO files, but I think...if I read things correctly, I won't be able to burn an ISO file to a DVD-R without buying a specific LG unit. Which would be fine, but if I can get this to work, then I really don't need the LG drive right?

    anyway, so after all of this. I got someones tutorial off lifehacker (linked there) and tried to step through the GX bootloader install.

    I think I installed it correctly as a channel, but when I connected my USB drive, it just says waiting...and then ends after it fails to see the drive.

    I tested this with an OLD wd usb drive (250GB WD...IDE physical drive in an old USB box...like 5 yrs old...) anyway. I formatted one partition to 2GB FAT and another to WBFS...with some WBFS tool that I didn't understand.

    So here's what I'm thinking/questioning...

    1) I will try a different USB drive. I have an Eagle (Consus) USB SATA external enclosure and several different 500GB SATA drives.
    ?) is this usb controller compatible? I would guess the compatibility has to do with the enclosure not the physical drive right?

    2) Do I need to update to wii 4.1 firmware?
    ?) How can I do this, not what I've hacked my wii? Will the update kill the mod?

    3) Do I need to worry about partitioning the drive first or will GX do that for me?
    ?) I've seen a ton of posts about partitioning drives for this, and most are not very clear about the second partition. They talk about formatting everying for FAT, or FAT32, which I can't understand. I think FAT32 only support like a 2GB volume size. This is what led me to the WBFS program.

    4) I have no idea what versions of IOS files I have installed. Do I need to or can I just reload new ones for this? Which ones are important for this?

    anyway, I know...dumb questions. I did review the tutorial, but I'm still obviously lost.

    any help would be appreciated.

    thanks

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    must resist urge to post big facepalm picture saying "this is what happens when you follow youtube guides"...........

    you dont need a special burner to burn ISO files to dvd, you just (used to) need a special drive to backup original discs.

    there is a BIG thread about compatible USB drives, go find and read it.

    4.1 is a good thing to be at, but use waninkoko's 4.1 firmware updater.

    You can use WBFS manager to format your drive.

    You shoud do some reading of the softmod guides on this forum, then you might have some idea of wth you are doing.

    **If any of this bricks your Wii, its your own fault for following stupid Youtube videos and playing with things you dont understand**

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    Angry alright, one step at a times.

    What I'm trying to do now should be simple...format my 500GB USB hard drive with WBFS and see if it can be seen in the usb loader.

    I'm not getting it. All of the instructions I have found skip over the USB hard drive preparation. They say "format your hard drive for FAT"

    I can't format a 500GB hard drive with FAT. It's too big.

    So what Do I do? They say to format a small partition to FAT16 for the images. I can do this. I did this. Called it Images and it's on my windows system as drive K:

    I tried partioning the remaining 400+GB without putting a format on it (RAW), but all the WBFS managers are looking for a WBFS partition. I can't create it on the raw space.

    What am I missing here?

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    Yes, one step at a time-you are focused on the wrong step. Be aware that not all HDDs are compatible with the Wii. Do as Davepm suggested and search for the USB HDD compatibility list-choose a drive that is known to be compatible. Then we can talk about partitioning and formatting.

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    Thumbs up Figured it out so far

    For those that have the same mindset as me and don't like the vague details in the tutorials...here is what I did.

    First. When they say you need to pre-format your drive with FAT32...what you need to d0...if you are like me, using vista...is open your command prompt:

    First, attach your USB drive to the PC

    go to Control Panel -- Administrative tools -- Computer manager -- Disk Management.

    You should see your USB drive listed along with all of your other drives. If the USB drive is already formatted to something it will be all blue. There might be several sections shown on your drive. These are partitions. If you are like me and want to use the whole drive for Wii, then just start selecting the blue partitions and hit the delete key. It will ask you to make sure you want to do this...MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT DRIVE!

    When you are done there should only be one long black bar that says unformatted capacity xxxGB.

    Now right-click on the drive and select New Simple Volume.

    It will ask you for capacity, type in 2000 for GB. Hit next

    For Drive letter just take the default, whatever is there,

    For name, just pick a name. "Images" is what I used.

    click next

    Now for partition type choose FAT (not FAT32) and check the quick format box.

    now you should have a 2GB partition called Images

    Thre should be a black bar that shows the rest of your drive capacity is unformatted.

    Click on the unformatted part and follow the steps above. but this time for drive capacity take the default, which should be the remaining disk capacity.

    follow the options again. You can't format this as FAT or FAT32 as all the instructions want you to, since it's too big. (for me I had a 500GB drive). Just choose NTFS or exFAT...whatever is allowed by the OS.

    Once this completes...you should have a new volume listed with a new drive letter. Remember this drive letter. You will be reformatting it.

    You need to format this to FAT32 in the command line. so...open your command prompt.

    That's CMD.exe You can search for CMD in the windows search box (start search).

    type "format [Drive letter]: /FS:FAT32 /q"

    Make sure that you pick the right drive letter here. Double check it. You don't will be deleting any data on this partition. For me the command was:

    >/ format l: /FS:FAT32 /q

    this should be fast.

    I then used WBFS_GUI_TOOL_V2.zip to reformat the drive to WBFS.

    I'm not sure why all of the other tools gave me issues, but this one worked fine and tool like a second to format.

    I checked it with WBFS manager 3.0 and it showed up perfectly as a large WBFS volume (EMPTY).

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Step 2, update to CIOS38.rev14

    I followed the steps here:
    _____________________________________________
    -To install, copy over the “cIOS34″ folder to SD:/Apps/

    -Load the application from the homebrew channel, use network installation. If you wish to use wad installation you will have to find the wad elsewhere, sorry.

    -The installer will get all the required data and install the cIOS.

    Check back for more releases!
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    I did the network installation and it worked great!

    Next I just plugged my USB drive into the wii, launched the GX loader and it found the drive.

    I inserted a game and voila...it asked me to "install the game" 25 minutes later the game was installed on my USB drive.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    For me the tricky part was knowing to get the cIOS38 rev14. and formatting the USB drive. Neither were very hard to do once you understood what tools to use.

    I've still got some issues with the loader (crash dump) and I'm working through some other challenges, but for the most part I'm well on the way.

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    I have a question as well pertaining to WBFS, If I am adding game to the list that has multiple zips, what do I do?
    All the other games only have one.
    ex : bully has alot of zip files
    as Super smash bros is one zip

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    WBFS Manager will only add the ISO from your PC HDD to the WBFS-formatted drive. WBFS can un-rar an ISO, I prefer to do it before hand so I can check it. You will have to extract the zip files which should re-combine at least rar files do. I haven't seen any game ISOs in the zip format before-the VC/wad files come in zip compression/archive sometimes? Sure these are ISOs?

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    I am almost positive it is an ISO zip/rar same thing to me I just
    confuse them alot, but there a shit ton of rar for this bully game do I just
    unzip them all into that folder then try adding it to my list?

    If it is easier to communicate and help me with this
    could you add me on msn? babybooduh2389@yahoo.com

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    That makes more sense. Most of the ISOs come as rar files:-)
    Yes, after downloading them, you extract the rar files using a program such as WinRar or 7Zip (most of the moderators seem to use WinRar). From your rar extraction program, select one of the rar files to extract and the program will go and extract all the rar files in sequence and combine them into one burnable ISO. Most game ISOs will extract as 4.37GB.

    Once you have an ISO on your PC HDD, open WBFS manager, load your Wii game HDD (it will show on the left side of the window). On the right side-use browse to find your ISO, click on it, it will now show on the right-hand window. select the game title and click the add button-the iso will be copied to the WBFS-formatted drive.

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