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    Discs no longer work?

    I have a few disc backups and they've always worked fine. Until today, when I decided to unplug my Wii to shift it next to the TV. Right after that the whole bunch of discs stopped working! Each time I tried to load them through NeoGamma I'd get a 'timeout' error, while a couple of them still worked on other loaders? WTF?

    The Disc Channel outside gives me errors for a few of them, but acknowledges the other half by showing the 'Wii System Update' icon. But none of them work on NeoGamma anymore....

    Could simply unplugging a Wii and putting it somewhere else cause backups to stop loading? What is going on? (originals still work fine btw)

    I'm really worried because I've already changed my Wii's laser once because it stopped reading discs. Is it happening again?
    Last edited by selphy; 12-01-2011 at 03:51 AM.

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    Here...by the way my NeoGamma is R6

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    Oh my I think you maybe modded with a guide from Noah himself. Have a look at Mauifrogs mod any wii guide, I'm guessing you need an update, Missing a few ios, Cios (system menu 3.2 ) is quite an old level. Have a read. Update ( not from Nintendo) READ READ READ, then decide.

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    Just have to ask even though it seems simple but did your old location have the wii laying flat and in your new spot it is vertical? Worth a try if the games worked before you moved it.

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    Both times the Wii was vertical.

    @Grandpa: The backups worked fine before I unplugged my Wii and since nothing has ever froze on me yet I didn't see any need to update from 3.2U. I'm just perplexed at why they stopped working right after that. I never did much softmodding and the games still work.
    Last edited by selphy; 12-01-2011 at 07:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selphy View Post
    Could simply unplugging a Wii and putting it somewhere else cause backups to stop loading? What is going on? (originals still work fine btw)

    I'm really worried because I've already changed my Wii's laser once because it stopped reading discs. Is it happening again?
    The laser issue COULD be happening again if the move caused a disc in the drive to hit the laser or it was set down so hard it loosened something.. Back up disc take more power to read so playing nothing but back ups could take a toll on the laser...

    solution for that?:
    1) First try to clean the laser with some rubbing alcohol
    - With a cleaning disc or by opening the wii
    2) Check if the disc drive is working
    - Can you hear it spinning with a disc in? does it even spin while trying to boot the game?
    -Check and see if it plays originals fine. if so then the drive is probably OK
    NO?
    - Open the wii make sure all connection are good on the drive and laser and that the drive components are intact.
    Yes i here the Drive and its working?
    - Id lean towards the laser.. Check and see if it plays originals fine. if so then the drive is probably OK.




    Now with your softmod:
    Im pretty sure that you are boot2 capable.
    - Are you applying it?

    The newer version of priiloader/preloader
    - more stable, safer, Should be installed for protection
    -Do you have it?

    Nand back up
    - the great thing about a boot2 wii is that it is almost always fixable, Nand /bin key back ups are necessary for a modded wii.. Hope you have one.
    IOS
    Needed to play newer original games
    -yours are waaaaaay outdated and Should be updated...

    cIOS
    Needed to play back ups and newer game back ups, Run apps, usb support (mics,instruments, hdd's,ect) and other homebrew
    -again... the 1 single one you have is outdated.. You should add more cIOS and an updated version of them to be compatible with newer games.

    HBC
    -you are more than likely also running an older revision of HBC you should update it..

    Loader (Neogamma)
    there are many loader. if you prefer neogamma it fine.. but there are newer revisions that fix many bugs and makes the app run much much better.


    Things to consider:

    usb loading and disc loading
    -Original discs play at 6x speed, backups play at 3x.. while usb loading keeps up at original speed
    -with usb loading there is no need to constantly change games or burn discs of buy discs.. so cheaper/easier/faster in the long run.

    Softmodding
    - Im a firm believer in if it aint broke dont fix it. if your single cIOS and disc loading is what you want you can still just do the minimal and update your 249 and your neogamma loader.. BUT!!! It would take you almost the same amount of time to run through the softmod guide in my signature to add update everything I have been ranting about in this post.. It will install boot2/priiloader/updated IOS & cIOS/newer compatible loaders/ and back up the NAND. The guide is Highly recommended.. think about it. It will Set you on FW 4.1 also which is the preferred SM to be on.
    [SPOILER= Did I come off like a jerk?? Read more here]Shift_Lock On Forum Issues - Vol. 1

    Disclaimer:
    First I would like to state that this is one persons point of view. It does not reflect this site (wiihacks.com) or any other staff/mod/or admin here. It is solely mine. Now even though a few may have similar points of view this should be taken as one person’s opinion. Also. This DOES NOT reflect all users and noobs here.. Just a select few personality types that pop in time to time. Let’s get started!

    [SPOILER="Outlook On Forum Rules "]Now I realize many of you did not even read the rules and just agreed to them.. Kind of like signing a legal contract without reading the clause that states you just sold your life away… It happens... When it does, YOU are still responsible and held liable for your actions. No matter how much you think its BS... It’s still on you. I for one am among those who did just that when I signed up here... (Shame on me I know) I to did not read them immediately (however I did speed through it to get a general idea)... I was quickly referred to them a few times do to not being thorough enough with “speed reading”...

    [SPOILER="Why we have rules on this site"]The rules here at wiihacks are here for a few key reasons. I’m only going to hit a few.

    Conduct - We know it’s the net, and there are a lot of internet gangsters/bully’s/and plain jack ass’s... We don’t like that here. The ways users conduct themselves reflect the site... We want user to enjoy coming here but respect in general is needed. Flaming and such results in infractions/bans so don’t do it.

    Piracy – This is a big one here, and no one seems to understand... First of all IT IS AGAINST THE RULES OF THE SITE! Which every last one of you members had to agree to follow prior to being a member here. Copyright laws vary from place to place so they are different for others. But we have to follow our copy rights here to protect our site. We DO NOT support piracy and will not assist in it. We don’t want to lose our wonderful site that you as a user come to, to find help. Big brother (the government) and big “N” (Nintendo) may be watching along with a vast amount of other private sectors looking to stop the pirating of copy righted material. Shutting down sites that support it are somewhere at the top of the list to reduce this.

    Personally, I don’t care what you do... I don’t care what your online habits are or how much porn/software/media you download every day. It’s your computer and your life. YOU are responsible for anything that may occur from that. Users who lack a way with words to express themselves in what they are trying to do may get wrongly accused of being a pirate and these things occur: warnings/infractions/bans/threads closed/YouTube videos of dancing pirates/ and many many possible pictures pointing you out.

    We as staff here are obligated to abide by and enforce forum rules. Whether we believe their valid or not. They are in place to protect the site and members of our community. I won’t allow a poor decision result in losing this site.

    Cheating – Play Fair... I support it... Nothing I hate more than losing to a cheater... If I lose I want it to be because the other person was actually better. Cheating takes the fun out of the game... Why make it easier? Do you suck that bad at it? Don’t like the challenge? GET A DIFFERENT GAME! We don’t support cheats here. Users will not be given help on how to become invincible or walk through walls... you want god mode? Unlimited ammo? Go Google it somewhere else. Don’t ask about it here.[/SPOILER]

    There are a lot of users/members that say “this is wiihacks wtf?” or "that’s the point in hacking a Wii”... No it is not….. We assist users in backing up their legally purchased games so they don’t get ruined in the future (we know how kids are)... Before backups I had bought 3 Mario karts! Ridiculous… Anyways, it also allows us to fully enjoy the console and the convenience that some mods add to the system. We make it custom and set it up the way we like it. Kind of like your pc. A lot of users buy the Wii just so they can do that! I will ban anyone who tries to argue that point... Dont be ignorant... [/SPOILER]

    [SPOILER= “So you Think You’re a Hacker”]Warning: Spoiler below is a rant. [SPOILER= "Shift_Lock's Rant about the tough guys"]Really guy? We are “Modder’s” at best... most users aren’t even that. A hacker would shut down this site with a single code line… Not sit here claiming he’s one arguing about rules and why he needed help... I’m not saying we don’t have members that are real “hackers” but face it... You aren’t one of them... Coders and developers are fantastic people that make all this possible. And some of those guys truly are considered hackers at some level. Now, could they hack the pentagon? Probably not, but maybe. Who knows... lol

    The point of this is for those of you that come on here thinkin you’re hot [nice word]... If you were a hacker you wouldn’t need our help and wouldn’t need to hide behind a proxy or redirect to post your nonsense… Get over yourself and just follow our guides. If you can’t “hack” a Wii, what can you do? Can you hit the logout button? Try It! How about facing your fail and going back to the guides to read some more… Leave the “hacking” to the REAL hackers out there. /end rant[/SPOILER][/SPOILER]

    [SPOILER= “Need Help?”] That’s why you’re here right? To get help Modding your Wii. Some users can just navigate the site and never need to post a thing because they can search, read and are on some level tech savvy. Other users need assistance. That’s why we are here... To support and assist those who need the help to mod or to help find solutions to their problems. We like to help… but... We don’t always like to spoon feed arrogant people who demand help or can’t use the search function... If our search is too hard to use there is Google, and if you can’t use Google then you SHOULD NOT mod your Wii...

    We see the same issues every day, same posts, same questions, same answers…. SEARCH FIRST!!! Read a little… Geez people! Too lazy to search for a solution, but can type a wall of text that takes 15 mins to read? C’mon man… step up your game... My spoon hand is getting tired, gonna have to just start [nice word] slapping people with it…

    Don’t be lazy... Help us, help you... If you’re really stuck then we take no issue helping as long as it’s within the lines of the rules... The “grey” area is kind of tough... The staff is here on OUR own time and do not get ANYTHING for being here helping you... We are not paid and don’t see any part of the donations... The donations go strictly to site development. Can you fathom how much it costs to run a site of this level and host the files that we do? Everything costs money... Just not the staff here so remember that the next time you are impatient or lazy... We aren’t getting paid... We are helping because we want to... So keep your cool and dont lose your head... Don’t give us reasons to NOT help you. If you do, well... Then we won’t...[/SPOILER]

    [SPOILER= "Mutli Threads, Double Posts and bumping"]Ok.. So It might not bother you but it bugs the crap outta me! It clutters the forum and makes you come off as impatient and ungrateful.

    Mutli threads - Do you really need more then one?? Mods and staff see EVERY POST MADE! You only need one thread for your issue.. Dont create more then that..

    Double posts - You have an "EDIT" button... it will be right under your post to the right.. it will say "EDIT".. say it with me now.. "Eh-d-it" ...... Use IT!!!

    Bumping - If no one has got to you yet there IS a slim chance it was missed.. probably not.. As we answer what we know. so if we dont know, We will leave it for someone else or atleast contact another Staff member for assistance. So WAIT and be PATIENT!You can bumpAFTER 24hrs! and that it!!! I will infract/ban/scold/kick your dog/delete any users who abuse this after warnings....[/SPOILER]
    More to come (without a doubt) so stay tuned for the next edition! Peace I’m out![/SPOILER]
    [/spoiler]

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    So it's a hardware issue....again. :/

    I've been contemplating switching to USB for some time now actually, just didn't know where to start, my Wii seems like it's modded but not all the way through. One more question though, just to confirm. After doing everything in the guide and installing all the IOS/cIOSes, will I lose my ability to play backup discs? I still want them.

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    No my backup disc's still work but i never use them as hard drive access is way easier. Guess I am just lazy

  10. #10
    This is my first post, and I apologize deeply if this has already been covered (I really did look, but I didn't see it). My Wii has also stopped reading discs, and I am in the process of setting up an external USB HD for game play. However, the only missing component from all the directions I'm using is how to get a game from a Wii disc TO the USB HD.

    My discs are fine. My Wii works perfectly (minus the laser being shot). I have the USB HD formatted, and Homebrew installed on my Wii.

    How do I get a game FROM the disc TO the USB HD?

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