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    Thumbs up What a wealth of info - almost overwhelming!

    OK, total noobie to Wii mods, but I've spent the entire morning trawling through the VAST wealth of information.

    Been toying with soft-modding my Wii just to put all of our games onto my WD hdd, and run from there (kids aren't exactly respectful to the disks!)

    Fantastic site, but soft-modding does seem like a PITA.
    My *limited* understanding is that the IOS files have to be constantly updated depending on which games you put on your HDD.
    The other downside is that you can't really update your Wii through Nintendo.

    The Modchip option looks better, but I can't see any HDD option, so potentially pointless for what I need?

    Again, my *limited* understanding is that I would need to
    1. Softmod
    2. put on BootMii - will want to back up the original OS.
    3. Put on HBC
    4. Put on some type of USB Boot loader.

    Have I pretty much got the gist of this?

    I've got 2 other things to ask though - this above seems to focus on the use of an SD card. Can you used a memory stick or usb drive to install from/backup to?

    The other thing is ideally I want to use my Mac - don't own a PC any more!!

    Any advice would be very helpful, but please don't flame. There's SOOO much great info on this site that it's quite difficult to navigate around. Information overload!!! LOL!!


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    Forgot to add, my Wii is an initial release machine in the UK

    Thanks for any help


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    WODE will bring the USB HDD function to the hard modding world. Not quite sure how one would update your IOS with it though.

    To be honest though once you install the newest IOS you are pretty much set for all the games until something new comes out. You can also be guaranteed that once this new game comes out there'll be a 50+ page thread on Wiihacks about it, plus a few hundred others made by those who can't read or search, lol.

    Bootmii will install as boot2 on older Wiis, make sure you take that option. Don't worry about as IOS as it is a waste of time.

    This tutorial is one of the best, it'll take you from start to finish and then some.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    so, the better option is to go softmod then.....

    I'm guessing that this isn't just Windows-based. A Mac platform will still work (found a site with some DVD burning apps specifically for Mac/Wii)



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    I found it tough wading through the wealth of wii hacking info too! So I completely understand where u are coming from. I am still a nooby but I hope all this helps:

    Im in the UK, my wii is UK issue too, by the way. I can play everything, and don't have any hardware mods (softmod only). I now can backup and play games from usb hard drive, and can stream movies from my PC in the next room to my wii, and even play DVDs on it if I like, including backup games on DVD of course. I don't see the point of paying to get my wii busted open and a hardware chip installed? Apologies to any "experts" out there but this guide is an overview, so excuse any specific errors. The poster just needs a general overview of wii hacking!

    Im going to answer your question with the goal in mind that you want to put most of your games onto a USB hard drive. Ill try to think of all the places you might get stuck.

    Firstly, you are initially going to need to download a few bits of software and somehow physically put them onto an SD card. I use an old 1gig one that I bought a while ago from "Boots", that used to live in a camera. However, once you have managed to install the Homebrew Channel (abbreviated often to HBC) on your wii, and have installed ftpii, you should not need to remove the sd card from the wii again, as with ftpii you can add and remove files remotely using ftp and wireless connection. Very handy!!

    The first problem you might have it that some SD cards are not as compatible with the wii as others. I had no problems, if you don't have one in the house that u can use or try out, perhaps search this site for SD compatibility before you buy. That said, most cards seem to work apparently. I think bannerbomb DOES need to be run from SD card in the wii and not USB, in answer to your question.

    Secondly, it matters where you are "starting from". Chances are that like most carefree nintendo users you updated your wii over the internet just like nintendo wanted you too.. perhaps your wii is currently using system 4.2 (which I believe is the latest). Personally, I had not updated for a while, and my system was as 3.3E. It matters because nintendo have tried to make it harder for people to use homebrew. Firstly, their updates prevented the old "twilight" hack from working. Secondly, a I O S slot that wii hackers use (slot 249) they maliciously fill with a stub of nonsense. Idea being that if that data slot is used in the wii then we cant put our custom software there..

    Both of these have been worked around. There are tutorials on this site that help there. Use a version of "bannerbomb" to initially "break into" your wii, it works where "twilight" no longer does.

    Something to note at this point is that wii hackers talk about IOS and cIOS. Although most hardware (mobile phones, wireless routers, etc) have firmware that you can update, the wii seems to have "multiple" firmware slots inside it. These multiple firmware slots are called IOS slots. (maybe that stands for Input Output System???)

    Also the earlier wiis were easier to hack because the firmware sitting in IOS slot 15 had a bug, called the "trucha bug". Nintendo sussed this and therefore newer wiis didnt have this handy exploit. However, once you have managed to allow wiibrew onto your wii, you will be able to downgrade your IOS15 to the earlier firmware - at least thats how I understood the program "trucha bug restorer" works.

    Games tend to ordinarily use IOS36 or IOS38 or IOS53 or IOS55 for their input-output firmware.

    A problem I came into, was that once I had got wii homebrew software on my wii, i no longer wanted nintendo to update my wii any more - because chances are they would delete my homebrew or worse prevent wiibrew at all, or worst of all send a message to my wii to kill it (turn into into a house brick) as revenge!

    However, imagine a brand new game is released on the wii, such as New Super Mario Brothers. (NSMB) Nintendo decide to make life tougher for the pirates by A) putting better anti-piracy software on the game and B) making the game need firmware that isnt on most peoples wiis. They know that if your wii doesnt have IOS55 firmware, the game will show you a message saying "you need to update your wii with nintendo for this game to run". Non- wiihackers will update and receive IOS55 on their machine. Wii hackers who dont update their wiis via nintendo are stuck. Or not. You just get hold of the IOS you need (download it or rip it from an original copy of the game), and install it yourself, using wiibrew called wad installer.

    remember that disk images are called *.iso files and wii input-output firmware programs are called ios files. I got a bit confused when reading this stuff - so i thought id mention the trouble those two letters caused me!

    Now the last thing that might help you in your quest is to know about cIOS. The little c stands for custom, meaning customised by hackers, and usually a very clever person called wannikoko. Assume you have IOS38 on your legitimate wii, needed to play a lot of games. Now assume you want to play backups (copies). What you need to do is get hold of a normal IOS38 wad (wad files are program packages). And run wanikokos cIOS38 rev14 installer. What this will do is create a second IOS38 on your wii, (customised cleverly so it WILL allow backups to play), and it will store the cIOS (customised IOS) at slot 249 on your wii.

    So to recap, with a few hours of messing about, you want to end up with an SD card in your Wii, with the homebrew channel installed on your wii, with a few clever wiibrew apps on your card. You might want to have downgraded your IOS15, you might want to have installed IOS53 or IOS55 to get certain newer games to play, you want to have a customised IOS installed (cIOS38) at slot 249. You can then:

    Format a usb drive using WBFS filesystem (for wii), add games to it, and load games. A lot of people use the wiibrew called USB LOADER GX to launch games on their USB drive.

    P.S. Turn off wiiconnect24. Constant connection can overheat your wii. Stop nintendo spying on you too!

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    Not a expert on Mac (far from it) but I think most apps are available on your platform, it will just require more digging to find.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    Fantastic Great post

    Got myself a sandisk SD card (well, micro sd with an adapter)

    Just turned the Wii on and it is updating So will probably have to go from 4.2E by the looks of it.

    that might make life difficult!!!
    Last edited by ScoobyDoo555; 11-22-2009 at 02:36 AM.

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    I don't think its the end of the world - there are a number of guides specifically designed to help 4.2 users, and I checked the bannerbomb website and there IS a version for 4.2.

    Not sure about the micro SD + adapter arrangement though!! Good luck!

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    FWIW, I'm 99.9% there.

    Just backing up the NAND now

    P1ss easy



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    All done

    The *only* thing that black-screened was the USB loader, but I'm guessing that is because I've haven't got a drive attached.

    In all fairness, it is VERY easy to do - just gotta READ!!!!

    So this afternoon, I'm going to play with a HD, and hopefully backup some games....

    Then look at what else it can do

    What about a proper DVD player? NeoGamma is just for DVD "backups" I guess.


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