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    I Need Some Help With NAND Emulation & NAND Transfer

    My old Wii stopped reading discs. I've had it for four years. My friend showed me the softmod guide on here so I could play my games I OWN or have OWNED (I do not support downloading digital copies for games I have never had possession of. My little brother broke my Melee and my older brother's ex-gf won't give back the Wind Waker she borrowed from me) through USB Loader GX. I also set up DIOS MIOS on my USB for my Gamecube games. I did this to kill some time as I waited for my other RVL-001 Gamecube compatible Wii (the best Wii, which is what my Wii that used to read discs used to be <.<) to arrive that I ordered on eBay that can read discs... I shortly discovered soon after about NAND Emulation.

    The newest version of the Mario Kart Wii Custom Track Grand Prix Revolution requires a DISC and an SD Card. USB Support was removed due to people abusing its vulnerabilities in security. I'm a huge fan of CTGP, so I put some savings into getting that Wii. I'll be delayed on getting a Wii-U, but I don't care lol.

    So... getting back on topic, I want to do the following:

    I want to have a completely clean NAND on my Wii that won't read discs. I want to move my softmod and some data over to an Emulated NAND using SNEEK (the disc drive is already screwed, I want to make sure my NAND stays untouched from this point on). I then want to transfer the clean NAND with all my Wii Shop Channel games, Wii Shop Channel account + points, MAC Address (even if it's spoofed), Wii Console Number, System Settings, Mii Client IDs, and Miis over to my Wii that can read discs (if all of this is even possible, it would be more convenient since I don't have to sync my one Wii remote every time I want to play those games. If not, I can just play these downloaded games on the older Wii). I am going to use SaveGame Manager GX to transfer the rest of my data to the other Wii. If the Miis thing is a problem, I can use the extract and install options for Miis with SaveGame Manager GX, find my new Wii's Mii Client ID, load the Miis in Mii Search Creator/Editor, and edit the Client ID to my new Wii's manually from there. It would be a pain in the butt, but I will do it if I have to. The main thing I care about really is getting the tickets of my Wii Shop Channel games on the newer Wii's NAND so I can access them from that Wii and not have to hook up the other Wii when I want to play them. I have 0 points on my Wii Shop Channel account, currently, but it would be cool if that could transfer over anyway.

    On my Wii that will read discs, I want to be able to use Homebrew, CleanRip (to get legal ISOs via a working disc drive ), BootMii, Riivolution, Custom Tracks Grand Prix Revolution, and SaveGame Manager GX. On this Wii I do NOT want to install ANY IOS's (except for BootMii, which I already did, and using CleanRip). The Wii literally just arrived and I want to keep it as clean as possible while still being able to do what I want to do.

    I've ran BootMii on both Wiis. I have a NAND backup of my old Wii PRIOR to installing ANY IOS's. The only thing that is installed on this NAND backup is the Homebrew Channel and Riivolution. On the Wii that reads discs, I have a NAND backup PRIOR to installing any HomeBrew Applications whatsoever. The old Wii's NAND has 2 bad factory blocks. The "new" Wii's NAND has 0 bad blocks whatsoever on its NAND.

    BootMii is installed as an IOS on both Wiis. Both Wiis have the newer version of boot1, so I cannot get BootMii to install as boot2. The System Menu version of both are 4.3U. I used LetterBomb with the HackMii installer to install the Homebrew Channel and BootMii on both. I've used SmashStack, too, in the past on my old Wii, to install Riivolution.

    I am fully aware of the risks of a NAND restore with BootMii as an IOS. I have Priiloader on my old Wii that won't read discs. I know Priiloader makes restoring NAND with BootMii as an IOS safer, but I know it's still risky compared to BootMii installed as boot2 (the best brick protection there is, yes I get it).

    [SPOILER=SYSTEM INFORMATION: OLD WII]
    sysCheck v2.1.0b13 by Double_A and R2-D2199
    ...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).


    Region: NTSC-U
    System Menu 4.3U (v513)
    Priilaoder installed
    Homebrew Channel 1.0.0 running on IOS58
    Hollywood v0x21
    Console ID: 125448427
    Boot2 v4
    Found 98 titles.
    Found 56 IOS on this console. 6 of them are stub.


    IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
    IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
    IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
    IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
    IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
    IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
    IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
    IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
    IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
    IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
    IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
    IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
    IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
    IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
    IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS223[75] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
    IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
    IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
    IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
    BC v6
    MIOS v10


    Report generated on 2014/01/23.


    AHBPROT ENABLED[/SPOILER]

    [SPOILER=SYSTEM INFORMATION: NEW WII]
    sysCheck v2.1.0b13 by Double_A and R2-D2199
    ...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).


    Region: NTSC-U
    System Menu 4.3U (v513)


    Homebrew Channel 1.0.0 running on IOS0
    Hollywood v0x21
    Console ID: 89610981
    Boot2 v4
    Found 69 titles.
    Found 47 IOS on this console. 17 of them are stub.


    IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
    IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
    IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
    IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
    IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
    IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
    IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
    IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
    IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
    IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
    IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
    IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
    IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
    IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
    IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
    IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
    IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
    IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
    IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
    IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
    IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
    IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
    IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
    IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
    IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
    IOS80 (rev 6944): No Patches
    IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS249 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS250 (rev 65280): Stub
    IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
    BC v6
    MIOS v10


    Report generated on 2014/01/23.


    AHBPROT ENABLED[/SPOILER]

    Any help would greatly be appreciated, thanks!


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    I think I get what you are trying to do here. I believe the simplest solution would be for you to take the drive that reads burnt media out of the new Wii and put it into your old Wii. A drive swap basically. Otherwise you are going to have to do a lot of dumping from the nand. And you are mistaken that priiloader somehow would make a nand restore safer. Its the equivalent of formating the hard drive of your PC thinking that safe mode in windows somehow would help. It absolutely will not. You WILL brick your console if you try to restore the nand from a different Wii. Priiloader is a part of the nand, more specifically it attaches itself to the system menu. So you do something to the nand, priiloader won't help.

    I will reread what you posted again, but I do think a drive swap would be the solution.

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    Whole silly thread was auto-moderated (including CJ's response). Fixed

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    Thanks nightstah. The mobile app doesnt show that. Thanks for fixing

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjizzle View Post
    I think I get what you are trying to do here. I believe the simplest solution would be for you to take the drive that reads burnt media out of the new Wii and put it into your old Wii. A drive swap basically. Otherwise you are going to have to do a lot of dumping from the nand. And you are mistaken that priiloader somehow would make a nand restore safer. Its the equivalent of formating the hard drive of your PC thinking that safe mode in windows somehow would help. It absolutely will not. You WILL brick your console if you try to restore the nand from a different Wii. Priiloader is a part of the nand, more specifically it attaches itself to the system menu. So you do something to the nand, priiloader won't help.

    I will reread what you posted again, but I do think a drive swap would be the solution.
    So basically if I restore the NAND and it fails, I'm completely screwed, since Priiloader will be removed in the process?

    I would ultimately do a drive swap in the future since it's easy to replace the drive, but I don't have a tri-wing screwdriver on hand. I might just leave all the NAND-only data on that Wii until then. Is it maybe possible to use all my old NAND data on my new Wii with an emulated NAND?


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    Yes, if it fails you would be screwed.

    Yes I believe you can make a nand backup and use that as the emulated nand on a different Wii. It would involve extracting the nand using showmiiwads and putting that into the nand directory on your HDD. Then you could use a loader such as GX or WiiFlow to load it. Your other Wii would have to be fully softmodded in order to do this.


    Edit: you can find a triwing on eBay for around a dollar....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjizzle View Post
    Yes, if it fails you would be screwed.

    Yes I believe you can make a nand backup and use that as the emulated nand on a different Wii. It would involve extracting the nand using showmiiwads and putting that into the nand directory on your HDD. Then you could use a loader such as GX or WiiFlow to load it. Your other Wii would have to be fully softmodded in order to do this.


    Edit: you can find a triwing on eBay for around a dollar....
    How risky is it to take apart a Wii to replace more than just the disc drive? This new Wii case is shiny and has very little wear to it. My old Wii has busted doors and much wear on it. It would be really cool if I could use the new disc drive and new case with my old NAND, but I don't want to do anything too crazy in order to do that.

    I just found a set of two tri-wing screwdrivers for a dollar each on eBay. Wow they really are cheap.

    Edit: My friend is saying to leave my MAC Address, Mii Client IDs, Wii Message Board messages, Wii Console Number, Wii Shop Channel Account, Wii Shop Channel Games, and Wii Shop Channel points on the old Wii and forget about them.

    [9:28:57 PM] Nove: WHO CARES BOUT MAC ADRESS AND WII NUMBER I DONT GET WHAT YOUR EVEN MAKING A FUSS ABOUT JUST MAKE NEW MII'S RE DOWNLOAD SOFTMOD AND PRIILOADER. THEN ON HOMEBREW GET THESE APPS TO PLAY THE OLD GAMES YOU WANT: Wii64, Snes9x_GX

    Hmmm. If I was able to install the softmod the first time on my old Wii, I should be able to do it on the new one... but... doing that much to a brand new Wii...

    Decisions.
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    Just be careful and you will be fine. We have guides on this site on how to replace virtually every Wii component. Just do some searching. If you want to go at it without guides, just take lots of pictures as you are disassembling so you have reference to reassemble (the guides are better tho lol).

    Its up to you what you want to keep/move/delete. Were just here to help you do what you want to do (albeit in a reasonable manner, which is why I suggested swapping drives - it accomplishes the same thing you were trying to do by moving everything). I personally like transferring my miis and game saves between Wii's, but your call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjizzle View Post
    Just be careful and you will be fine. We have guides on this site on how to replace virtually every Wii component. Just do some searching. If you want to go at it without guides, just take lots of pictures as you are disassembling so you have reference to reassemble (the guides are better tho lol).

    Its up to you what you want to keep/move/delete. Were just here to help you do what you want to do (albeit in a reasonable manner, which is why I suggested swapping drives - it accomplishes the same thing you were trying to do by moving everything). I personally like transferring my miis and game saves between Wii's, but your call.
    Alright. Those are way more reasonable suggestions. I realize now that messing with the NAND should only be a last resort for anything. I have some ideas about what I want to do now. I'll follow those guides if I decide to take the two Wiis apart.

    Thanks for the help.


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    Wii disassembly guide here.

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