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    Ca Multiple NAND's, how to tell the difference

    Hello everyone i have a Nintendo Wii that i Softmodded i think its on 4.2 or 4.3 and in my Back-up folder i have 2 nand's and i'm wondering how can i tell the difference between them in Hex Editor? When i compare them in Hex Editor the keys they aren't the same so how can i tell which one is my original?



    I followed this SSBB Tutorial in the Spoiler
    [spoiler]The 4.3 Softmod Guide


    DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3
    If you are not on 4.3, do this- Guide: Softmod ANY wii


    Warning: It is illegal to obtain/distribute backups of games you do not own. This guide, myself, and this site does not support or promote software piracy. Play fair.


    Spoiler Alert: This guide uses many spoilers. You must click on the spoiler to open it.
    I am a spoiler- Click me please
    Congratulations, you can follow simple instructions and may proceed with this guide
    Requirements:
    300 free blocks wii memory- found in data management
    Indiana Jones Original Adventures(ntsc-u/pal) -4.3u/e
    or
    Super Smash Bros Brawl(ntsc-u/j) -4.3u/j
    or
    Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's -4.3u/e/j
    Is there some other way? NO
    Can I bannerbomb? NO
    Please? NO


    Cios FAQ- What this mod installs
    After completion of this guide, your wii will have the HomeBrew Channel, Bootmii, a Backup Disk Channel, a CFG USBloader forwarder, and a loadmii channel installed along with a cios setup very similar to that listed below. Below is a list of those cios, and an explanation to what they do for those that are interested. If you don't know, or don't care, don't worry about it as the info below may be over your head at the moment. If you don't understand it, just take assurance that this is how my wii is setup and how I think your wii should be (if you care).


    System Menu 4.1+


    IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, r13 dip -patched ios60-v6174
    IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, r13 dip -patched ios60-v6174
    IOS12 (rev 269+): No Patches
    IOS13 (rev 273+): No Patches
    IOS14 (rev 520+): No Patches
    IOS15 (rev 523+): No Patches
    IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha, Es-Identify, Nand, Flash -Patched ios16-v257
    IOS17 (rev 775): No Patches
    IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, r13 dip -patched ios60-v6174
    IOS21 (rev 782+): No Patches
    IOS22 (rev 1037+): No Patches
    IOS28 (rev 1550+): No Patches
    IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, r13 dip -patched ios60-v6174
    IOS31 (rev 3608+): No Patches
    IOS33 (rev 3091+): No Patches
    IOS34 (rev 3348+): No Patches
    IOS35 (rev 3349+): No Patches
    IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, Nand, r13 dip -patched ios50-v4889
    IOS37 (rev 3869+): No Patches
    IOS38 (rev 3867): No Patches
    IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, r13 dip -patched ios50-v4889
    IOS53 (rev 5406+): No Patches
    IOS55 (rev 5406+): No Patches
    IOS56 (rev 5562+): No Patches
    IOS57 (rev 5661+): No Patches
    IOS58 (rev 6175+): No Patches
    IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, r13 dip -patched ios60-v6174
    IOS61 (rev 5405+): No Patches
    IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, r13 dip -patched ios60-v6174
    IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, r13 dip -patched ios60-v6174
    IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES_Identify, r13 dip -patched ios60-v6174
    IOS202 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0 -hermes v5.1 base-60
    IOS222 (rev 4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0 -hermes v4 base-38
    IOS223 (rev 4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0 -hermes v4 base -37/38
    IOS224 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0 -hermes v5.1 base-57
    IOS236 (rev 54321) Trucha Burg, Es Identify, Nand access, version patch - in
    IOS247 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0 -wani cios37-r20
    IOS248 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0 -wani cios56-r20
    IOS249 (rev 17): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0 -wani cios38-r17
    IOS250 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0 -wani cios57-r20
    IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
    BC v6+?
    MIOS -cmios (WiiGator)= mios v4 with WiiGator's GC Backup Launcher 0.2 embedded into it.


    FAQ
    rev65281 are maxed to prevent Nintendo from stubbing them
    v54321 is elevated way above the current version to prevent Nintendo from stubbing them
    Trucha Bug- enables the ios to load fakesigned, custom data, disks, wads, etc
    Es-Identify- used by apps such as "any title deleter'
    Nand- I have no idea, but it is important
    Flash- only found in older ios, like ios36-v1042 or ios16-v257 and many other old ios. When loaded with this ios, Any Title Deleter gives no error at startup.
    cios9,11,20,30,50,60,70,80,80- all have trucha, es-edentify, rev13 dip, and version 54321. This prevents their removal during nintendo updates. This provides need patches to load custom data. This provides dip patches to run recovery disks without a modchip on wiis that can read burned dvds. This supports system menu 1.0-4.3+ on all wiis, even lu64+wiis. Prevents stubbed system ios bricks, and downgrade upgrade bricks, and the like of similar stupid brick types. Prevents error 003 on 4.2/4.3 and possible furture system menu version on region changed Korean wiis. Assuming the next system ios is ios90, it provides needed patches to recover softmod should you update (like a fool).


    cio16- is just a version patched ios16-v257. This is the ios that runs the Nintendo Backup Disk, which was stubbed on 4.x system menus. Installing this cios restores the Nintendo Backup Disk, but it only runs via modchip. The Nintendo Backup Disk can backup all of your save data. It can format your wii removing bannerbricks, mailbox corruptions and other system menu corruptions. Most importantly, it can install any savegame exploit supported by your system menu, such as Indiana PWNS or Yo Gi Vah, Twilight hack, etc. I have tried to disk swap with it, but have failed, perhaps I did not try hard enough.


    cios36 has trucha, es-identify, nand, r13 dip- allows for recovery via mario kart patched channel install or Castelvenia disk swap from recovery menu. From disk channel, allows for SSBB, Castelvania disk swap without modchip to recovery softmod from SM update (assuming ios90 is not sm ios).


    cios200+ has most common used cios configs and can all be loaded from cfg loader, and other usbloaders.


    cio236- has trucha bug, es identify, nand, and version patch. - this cios is used to restore the trucha bug and is installed via cboot2 or ABHPROT. Once installed, it is used to install all other patched ios. The version patch removes the need to delete stubbed ios, which is common in many 4.2 guides but is no longer required when using current TBR methods.


    This ios config has been setup to support all common recovery methods known to me, without the need of a modchip, and to preserve them during a FAIL update. It also has all required cios for game play, that I am aware of.




    Chapter 1-Installing The HomeBrew Channel and Bootmii
    Format SD-CARD
    Use a standard SD-Card, less than 2g (SanDisk is good)
    If you have any issue, try to format with this tool
    If needed, use 7-zip to extract archive files.


    Part 1- Launch Hackmii Installer
    As of hackmii 0.8, ios58 will be install prior to hbc install for all wiis 4.2 and less.
    Below you will find many methods for loading the hackmii installer. Choose the method compatible with your wii.
    4.3u/e- Indiana PWNS or 4.3u/j- Smash Stack
    download Hackmii_0.8_IP_SS_BB2.zip, Extract to sd:\
    Use Indiana PWNS or Smash Stack


    -Hackmii Installer Loads


    -Smash Stack - Works with 4.3u/j
    -Load SSBB ntsc, with sd-card removed, make a save file if asked
    -Go to the stage builder, delete all custom stages found, exit the stage builder
    -Exit all the way back to the main SSBB menu
    -Insert SD-CARD, Go back to the stage builder
    -HackMii Installer loads
    Jap NTSC-J wiis, use this file- Hackmii_0.8-SS-J.zip




    -Boot the wii, bootmii loads
    -Go To the bootmii SD menu
    -Load bootmini.elf
    Hackmii Installer loads (maybe)
    Or
    Extract MMM-58-61_Hackmii_0.8_CB2.zip to sd:\


    Boot the wii, MMM loads
    Select App Manager- Load Hackmii installer


    Installed Forwarder Channel Option-
    If you have a forwarder channel installed, say for neogamma, or mplayer, or other
    Replace the sd:\apps\(forwarder app dir)\boot.dol with the boot.elf from MMM-58-61_Hackmii_0.8_CB2.zip


    Launch the forwarder Channel
    Hackmii Installer loads (maybe)


    There is no exploit for 4.3k, but give this a read.
    Virgin 4.3k = read this- MarioKart PWNS
    Part 2- Install The HomeBrew Channel and Bootmii
    Read the Scam warning and press 1
    It may take a minute or two for the "press 1" to appear- be patient
    Install the HomeBrew Channel
    Install Bootmii as Boot2(boot2 may not be available, IOS installs automatically)
    Prepare the SD-card
    If Step1 Freezes or black screens, DO THIS
    If Step1 fails with error "no vulnerable ios", DO THIS


    Part 3- Make A NAND Backup (NOT Optional, do this,)
    Load HBC, press -HOME-, launch Bootmii
    Make a nand backup
    Press Power, Power, Power, Reset, Reset (or use gc-controller)
    Power = Right, Eject = Left, Reset = Select
    Once the backup is complete, exit bootmii to HBC
    Backup your Bootmii files to your PC
    sd:\bootmii
    sd:\nand.bin
    sd:\key.bin
    *DO NOT LOSE THESE FILES*
    If you want to load bootmii again at a later date, copy the bootmii folder back to sd:\


    Congratulations, you now have the Homebrew Channel and bootmii installed. You have made your nand backup and are ready to move on the chapter 2. If you purchased a game to run these exploits, you may now sell them if you wish.




    Chapter 2- Hacking your wii
    Format the sd-card (not optional)
    Download
    ModPack-AnyWii.zip
    Extract to sd:\
    Requires a standard SD card, 1-2g scandisk is best. SDHC cards will not work.
    Run sd:\md5summer.exe
    Click "Verify Sums", Select "ModPack-AnyWii.md5"
    All check sums should verify without error (very important)
    Optional shop update: Download IOS56-v5662_Shopping_Channel_v20.zip and extract to sd:\wad






    Part 1- Wad Installs
    Start HBC, press [HOME], Launch Bootmii
    Multi-Mod Manager Starts (via cboot2)
    Never Uninstall IOS, you will brick your wii
    Never Uninstall IOS, you will brick your wii
    Select "WAD Manager" - Press A
    Press (1) to "Install all Wads" - Press A
    All wads should install without error
    "Press any button to continue"
    Be sure all the wads install, very important
    Press B two times- main MMM menu
    Never Uninstall IOS, you will brick your wii
    Never Uninstall IOS, you will brick your wii
    Help Multi-Mod Manager does not load-- try this alternate method
    Download- IOS236-MMM-INSTALLER.zip


    Extract to sd-card, replace files when asked.
    Load the HBC, launch the IOS236 Installer v4
    Read the warning, Press 1 when prompted
    Install from NUS or SD- press A to continue
    Read about step 2, confirm you are not a pirate - press 2
    Press any button to exit when complete.
    HBC loads
    Launch Multi-Mod Manager
    Never Uninstall IOS, you will brick your wii
    Never Uninstall IOS, you will brick your wii
    Select "WAD Manager" - Press A
    Press (1) to "Install all Wads" - Press A
    All wads should install without error
    "Press any button to continue"
    Be sure all the wads install, very important
    Press B two times- main MMM menu
    Never Uninstall IOS, you will brick your wii
    Never Uninstall IOS, you will brick your wii
    Go to Chapter 2, step 2
    Part 2- Downgrade to System Menu 4.1 (downgrade is optional)
    DO NOT do this before installing all wads without error (you will brick)
    ***********************************
    Optional- Region Change Wii
    If you want to change the region of your wii, do it now
    This is most common when changing Korean/Japan wiis to USA
    DO NOT RESTART THE WII UNTIL THIS PROCESS IS COMPLETE


    Download 4.1-region_change.zip
    extract to sd:\
    Run sd:\md5summer.exe
    Verify 4.1-region_change.md5 check sums


    In MMM select App Manager
    Launch ARCmod06_Offline
    Select ios236- press A
    Read the WARNING- press 1


    Use the wiimote, go down to-"system menu 4.1 installer"
    Select "System Menu Region"
    Change the region to USA (or Europe or Jap)
    Go down to "Auto set from System Menu Region" -Press A
    "WARNING: AREA: SysMenu MISMATCH!" will appear above- this is normal
    Also, ensure the ELUA is marked as read
    Do not install system menu 4.1
    Exit ARC-mod to HBC (do not restart)
    HBC will loads


    Launch Multi-Mod Manager
    MMM will load, Select Wad Manager
    Select the folder for your region: USA-4.1u, EURO-4.1e, JAP-4.1j
    Make sure you select the correct folder for your desired region change.
    Press 1, install all 3 wads -without error
    System menu 4.1, Elua, and Region Select will install
    Now go to Part 3- Install Priiloader
    Once you have completed this guide, you can use dop-mii to install/uninstall any channels you like
    -Network Install- preferred method
    From the main menu, Select Manage System Menu, Press A
    Install System Menu 4.1
    Press B- main menu
    ***********************************
    -Offline Wad Install Method- less preferred
    Download and a System Menu Wad for you region
    Use NUS Downloader, or below
    4.1u(ntsc/usa) - (4.1u)-System Menu-NUS-v449.zip
    4.1u.zip MD5= ebbea606bf8df2ae36ff3194d774b0c7
    4.1e(pal/euro) - (4.1e)-System Menu-NUS-v450.zip
    4.1e.zip MD5=e06ea2f66c930811a9eb366f6a586b2d
    4.1j(ntsc/jap) - 4.1j-System Menu-NUS-v448.zip
    4.1j.zip MD5= 4aba5709c781012d53163374ab83e3c3
    Extract to sd:\wad
    Select Wad Manager -Press A
    Select System Menu-NUS-v4##.wad, Press A, Press A again to install
    DO NOT Install the wrong system menu
    Press B two times- main menu
    ********************************
    DO NOT do this before installing all wads without error (you will brick)






    Part 3- Install Priiloader (brick protection, you need this)
    You should now be at the main menu of Multi-Mod Manager
    Select "App Manager" -press A
    Select Priiloader -Press A
    Priiloader 0.4 Installer will load
    Read the warning- Press +/A to install
    After priiloader installs, it may give error or freeze- this is ok, it installed
    Hold reset and boot wii while holding reset- priiloader will load
    Select "System Menu Hacks"- Press A
    Enable "Block Disk Updates", and "Block Online Updates", others if you like
    4.3 wiis, enable "Bannerbomb" others if you like
    If MMM loads at boot, select Manage Priiloader, Edit Priiloader Hacks, enable needed hacks.
    If you don't know what the hack does- you don't need it.
    Your wii should now block Disk updates and online updates.
    Select load/install,
    If you want to autoboot USBLOADER, install USBLoaderCFG_Forwarder.dol
    If you want to autoboot HomeBrew Channel, install HBC-Forwarder.dol
    NEVER UPDATE YOUR WII FROM NINTENDO- read the forum and do it yourself
    Optional priiloader settings-
    You can set you wii to boot the system menu, HomeBrew Channel, Priiloader, USBloader, and any other app you wish. Settings are found in priiloader, settings. Set the autoboot and return to what you like best.
    Example: Set the autoboot and return to installed file, now your wii will autoboot to your USBloader or HBC- Excellent option for those with kids.


    Optional- DARKCORP installation:
    Join the DARK Side of the WII!!!
    DARKCORP enables backup disks to be loaded from the wii disk channel, without using a loader.
    Newer wiis may not support DVD media, this will not fix this limitation.
    Download DARKCORP_v1.1_Full.zip, extract to sd:\
    Read the READ-ME first, install from HBC
    Use the second option- Install/Upgrade Darkcorp 1.1, and Wiigator's or Waninkoko's cmios for gc-games
    *DARKCORP can used in conjunction with usb loading methods*
    *USB loading is faster and is the general preferred method*
    Chapter 3- The Final Step
    Don't forget to do this
    Format your sd-card, one last time
    Extract AnyWii-AppPack.zip to sd:\
    Now you have some useful apps on your sd-card, you are ready to play. Have fun. Included apps- Homebrew Browser, WiiMC, CFG-USBLoader, and SaveGame Manager GX. There are many many many more for you to try. All apps install to the sd-card, or optionally you can install them to your fat32 usb drive. Apps should be installed like this- sd:\apps\app name\boot.dol ,otherwise they don't work.[/spoiler]

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    I wanted to help, but didn't understand the problem? You want to know the difference between the two of your NAND keys? Why would you want that? And talking about brawl just makes it more confusing..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marko1000Marko View Post
    I wanted to help, but didn't understand the problem? You want to know the difference between the two of your NAND keys? Why would you want that? And talking about brawl just makes it more confusing..
    i backed up my NAND twice but they appear to be different which one do i use?

    how can i tell which one is the original? and which one has been altered
    Last edited by x Julian 613 x; 05-04-2012 at 12:37 PM.

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    Use showmiinand to identify some channels. Look in the other guides section mighty channels. First part of the guide.

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    can you distinguish them by looking at the creation dates and times of the bin files?

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