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    I did run into something the other day. I hadn't played anything on the Wii in a few weeks. The kids have been playing their games (non-backup). When I put a game in to play the IOS was changed from 249 on NeoGamma to something like 37?

    I had to go through the d2x CIOS menu again to change it back to 249. Is this normal and do you just use the d2x CIOS to change the IOS's from say most games to Black OPS' (250 IOS)?

    Or is there a better way to change the IOS's? EDIT: I suppose I should say I have been using NeoGamma R8 and just noticed R9 beta is out. Should I switch to the beta?

    Thanks
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    Once you install d2x you do not have to reinstall it again. Install the recommended config in post one of this thread if you haven't already, and then install the latest version of Neogamma. It will automatically pick the correct cIOS to use for your games, so there will be no need to switch anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjizzle View Post
    Once you install d2x you do not have to reinstall it again. Install the recommended config in post one of this thread if you haven't already, and then install the latest version of Neogamma. It will automatically pick the correct cIOS to use for your games, so there will be no need to switch anything.
    Thanks cjizzle,

    I originally used the v8 installer a few weeks ago. I ran it again the other day when it was out of whack and all was well after that. I'm going to update my NeoGamma now.

    EDIT: Installed Neogamma R9 beta and everything works like a charm. Thanks for the tip. I didn't realize it auto detects. That's nice.
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    Okay, I'm sorry for asking this, but I really don't understand this instruction (from the dual layer list section of this page):

    "You used to need cIOS38 Rev17 + Or cIOS222/223 v4/v5.1 to get these dual layered games to work.
    Now just use the D2x Rev 21 cIOS, as well as cIOS222/223 v4/v5.1"

    So I ran the d2x cIOS installer, it asks for:
    - Select cIOS
    - Select cIOS base
    - Select cIOS slot
    - Select cIOS revision
    And at the bottom, it says
    - Current IOS: 58 v6176

    Now, according to what's written above, I'm fairly sure that
    + cIOS has to be v4 (there's no v5.1, only v5, so I'm not sure)

    And now here's my question:
    ? Does cIOS slot has to be 222 or 223? But there's already cIOS at that spot!
    ? I have no idea what cIOS base has to be, is it 38?
    ? is cIOS revision should be 17, or 21, or something else?
    ? Also, they mentioned that the "Current IOS" for the installation should be either IOS36 or 236, but I have no idea how to change it...

    Again, sorry for the question :/

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    Those are good questions. Without writing a book on technical terms and reasons, I will try to answer them the simplest way I know how.

    -222 and 223 are generally Hermes cIOS, not d2x. D2x is generally installed in the 240+ range, 249 being the most recognizable. Hermes revisions include 4 and 5.1. (There is also a v6 mod floating around out there). The most recent d2x release is version 8. If you look at the offline instructions, you will see them installed into slots 245-251.
    -The cIOS base is the modified d2x cIOS using an IOS base of your choosing. Each game requires a different IOS to run. COD Black Ops requires IOS57, the new Zelda requires IOS56 etc... Basically, you are applying the d2x modifications to the base IOS and creating a new IOS, a c(custom)IOS.
    -The cIOS revision is as follows: 21006=d2x v6, 21007=v7, 21008=v8 etc...
    -The d2x installer defaults to IOS58 if available, so no need to worry about changing to 36 or 236.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjizzle View Post
    Those are good questions. Without writing a book on technical terms and reasons, I will try to answer them the simplest way I know how.

    -222 and 223 are generally Hermes cIOS, not d2x. D2x is generally installed in the 240+ range, 249 being the most recognizable. Hermes revisions include 4 and 5.1. (There is also a v6 mod floating around out there). The most recent d2x release is version 8. If you look at the offline instructions, you will see them installed into slots 245-251.
    -The cIOS base is the modified d2x cIOS using an IOS base of your choosing. Each game requires a different IOS to run. COD Black Ops requires IOS57, the new Zelda requires IOS56 etc... Basically, you are applying the d2x modifications to the base IOS and creating a new IOS, a c(custom)IOS.
    -The cIOS revision is as follows: 21006=d2x v6, 21007=v7, 21008=v8 etc...
    -The d2x installer defaults to IOS58 if available, so no need to worry about changing to 36 or 236.
    Hmm... So lemme see if I got this correctly.

    In this case of this instruction:
    "You used to need cIOS38 Rev17 + Or cIOS222/223 v4/v5.1 to get these dual layered games to work.
    Now just use the D2x Rev 21 cIOS, as well as cIOS222/223 v4/v5.1"

    It means that:
    - cIOS : v4
    - cIOS base : 38
    - cIOS slot : anything above 240 and empty
    - cIOS revision : 21004
    Is this correct?

    I don't get it though, if cIOS revision describes which version of d2x already, why there are option in cIOS section?

    Also, what is this "batch" setting? Is this combining 2 IOS together? Is this what I need instead...?

    Again, sorry for the barrage of questions :/

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    You are getting technical on me and are making me write a book lol....

    The revision is simply the number that is assigned to the above listed options in the installer (basically it is the number that shows up on a syscheck). It's best to leave it at the default number. If you pay close attention, you will notice that it will change when you change the option next to "select cIOS". Think of it like this: cIOS d2x v8 can have a revision of 21008, 21, or 65535. cIOS d2x v4 can have a revision of 21004, 21 or 65535. All it is is a version number. It doesn't change what the actual cIOS is. From what I understand some loaders actually look for the revision number to determine what it's capabilities are. So from this reasoning you should leave the version number as it's default.

    Another explanation of versions: When N looks to update IOS it looks for version numbers. If say IOS58 has a version number of 6175, it will be updated to 6176. If you set the version number of your "old" IOS58 v6175 to 65535, N will not update it, because the version number you have is listed as higher than the version number it is trying to install. Changing the version number of the d2x cIOS is entirely your choice, and advanced users may for some reason want to do that, which is why the option is there. For everyone else (including myself) we should leave it at 2100x.

    In your case you should follow the recommended setup in the guide. All cIOS should be v8. The bases and slots 36-245, 37-246, 38-247, 55-248, 56-249, 57-250, 58-251.

    Or the simple solution - just install the wads using the offline instructions which will do all of this for you - no long winded explanations required LMAO. (I do admire your curiosity tho )

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjizzle View Post
    You are getting technical on me and are making me write a book lol....


    The revision is simply the number that is assigned to the above listed options in the installer (basically it is the number that shows up on a syscheck). It's best to leave it at the default number. If you pay close attention, you will notice that it will change when you change the option next to "select cIOS". Think of it like this: cIOS d2x v8 can have a revision of 21008, 21, or 65535. cIOS d2x v4 can have a revision of 21004, 21 or 65535. All it is is a version number. It doesn't change what the actual cIOS is. From what I understand some loaders actually look for the revision number to determine what it's capabilities are. So from this reasoning you should leave the version number as it's default.


    Another explanation of versions: When N looks to update IOS it looks for version numbers. If say IOS58 has a version number of 6175, it will be updated to 6176. If you set the version number of your "old" IOS58 v6175 to 65535, N will not update it, because the version number you have is listed as higher than the version number it is trying to install. Changing the version number of the d2x cIOS is entirely your choice, and advanced users may for some reason want to do that, which is why the option is there. For everyone else (including myself) we should leave it at 2100x.


    In your case you should follow the recommended setup in the guide. All cIOS should be v8. The bases and slots 36-245, 37-246, 38-247, 55-248, 56-249, 57-250, 58-251.


    Or the simple solution - just install the wads using the offline instructions which will do all of this for you - no long winded explanations required LMAO. (I do admire your curiosity tho )
    Okay, final question, so does d2x v4 rev21 and d2x v5 rev21 means exactly the same thing? (assuming they have the same cIOS base)


    And... Thanks for the answers! Yeah, I'm curious person sometimes


    Edit: Wait hold on, I thought I'm supposed to be installing v4, not v8, according to the instruction given to me? Or it doesn't even matter, since higher version is definitely always better?
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    No they do not mean the same thing. Look at your actual cIOS version. D2x v4. D2x v5. It doesnt matter what the revision# is. You could have d2x v4 REVISION 65535 and d2x v5 REVISION 1. In this example d2x rev 5 is newer, but the revision # says its older. As I said before the revision # does not matter, this is only for advanced users. Ignore the revision number for now until you get into modding a bit more. Install d2x v8, leave the revision at it's default, and go from there. If you dont like what happens you can change it again in the future. As of this moment it is a mute point. IMHO you are trying to understand Chapter 10 of the Wii modding book when you haven't even made it past Chapter 1. Hope you understand what I mean.

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    Gotcha, thanks for bearing with me! I'll stay away from changing the revision number from now... It's just that because they mentioned rev17 and rev21 in the instruction, so I got confused :/

    I'm still curious though, why I'm installing cIOS v8 when the instruction says I should be installing cIOS v4/v5.1...?

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