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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    The m class processors are mobile cpus, i.e. notebook/netbook. As the difference between the 2 you stated, nothing will distinguish one from the other except a emptier wallet in my opinion. Any newer cpu will handle a game just fine, the graphics card will make/break you. Of course, the more expensive the cpu/gpu, the more 'eye candy' you can crank up in your games. Think of it more along the lines of is it worth another couple hundred bucks to squeeze a few more frames per second and go up another notch in resolution in my games. As I said, it is subjective and mind-numbing to find your break even point on price/performance...
    thanks for the help again. im actually shocked at some psu prices; excessive.

    what things can be upgraded readily, and what components are "core" components? as in when a new wave of technology comes out and i want to make some small improvements, which things do i change, can i keep old things and just add more (like ram), etc. i hope this question is valid and makes sense. i figure a component like the cpu would not really be "upgraded" but flat out replaced and lead to a completely new computer if that comes up, whereas a component like the HD would be "upgraded"

    i may have just confused myself :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by drcrappants View Post
    thanks for the help again. im actually shocked at some psu prices; excessive. what things can be upgraded readily, and what components are "core" components? as in when a new wave of technology comes out and i want to make some small improvements, which things do i change, can i keep old things and just add more (like ram), etc. i hope this question is valid and makes sense. i figure a component like the cpu would not really be "upgraded" but flat out replaced and lead to a completely new computer if that comes up, whereas a component like the HD would be "upgraded" i may have just confused myself :P
    A CPU can only be 'upgraded' if they make one in the same pin/LGA configuration, i.e. 1155, 1156, 1366 etc. It won't make it a "new" computer per se, it will just be more efficient. Your best upgrades are going to be RAM, video cards and possibly storage if you go with a SSD for your boot drive and stick with magnetic drives for bulk storage. This is where you will see your most improvements from upgrading. You won't see much of a improvement on a CPU upgrade unless you really have an anemic processor to begin with. Best bang for the buck in term of improvements in my opinion would be a video card, RAM and adding a SSD, in that order. Again, depending on what you are going after and the funds you have to do it with.


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    i found this and found this very cheap for its specs. am i missing something? i thought building your own would be cheaper.

    http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...s=4&lang=en-US
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    I don't think it is any cheaper to try and round-up good quality components like it used to be 10 years ago, when pc makers can get great deals from the manufacturers of these components and bundle thing up cheaply. But the experience of putting one together yourself is the best.

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    I say this only because I care. based on your initial post it doesn't sound like you are very familiar with PC Support, repair and install. With that said, I personally don't recommend building your own gaming rig. Too much can go wrong if you don't understand the basics. It simply isn't a good idea to spend $1000 to build a PC for the first time. Everyone here can easily recommend their favorite component and component combos. But what do you do when you can't figure out which pin connects to your case power switch, or you accidentally bend a pin on your CPU because you don't know the difference between ZIF versus IF sockets?

    Also, I think oddgriffin already touched on this, but the notion that "building your own gaming PC is cheaper" hasn't been true for years. You can actually go into stores like Best Buy and walk out with a decent enough gaming setup for a good penny because most retail chains sell pre-manufactured PCs at rates cheaper then what they themselves paid for them. The "cheap" PC is the hook, then they make their real money off of their services and warranties. That's why the push warranties so hard, because every PC that sells without one is a monetary loss for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drcrappants View Post
    i found this and found this very cheap for its specs. am i missing something? i thought building your own would be cheaper.

    Costco - Dell XPS 8300 Desktop Core i7-2600 3.4GHz Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2010
    It's hard to compete with OEM manufacturers, but you do have the upper hand when building your own PC, YOU decide what goes in it, not a bean counter or corporate suit who just looks at the bottom line/profitability of the product as it goes out the door.


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    true, i do not know much, i have a friend who does who can show me the ropes so i can leanr bit when we do it also, dont like the junkware that comes preinstalled and such,

    but curious on the specs-- does the costco pc look any good in terms of spec?
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    yes, it is a decent setup for sure


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