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    Unhappy Are newbies getting rebellious?

    In the past people have usually been grateful to get help, and will follow directions. Maybe two weeks ago, I started having to put emphasis on following all the steps by writing it in bold or underlining them. That worked for about a week. After that, I started telling people to follow all directions twice, once in the instructions, and once at the end of the post. The past couple of days, I've noticed newbies saying "no" flat out.

    This whole thing has started to try my patience, and I've started acting a bit harsh. I know that doesn't help, and it may even be making the situation worse. It gets harder to help people if they won't accept it. It's not about people no longer saying "thanks so much" after being helped, although I will admit it was nice. It's that I've started typing instructions and suspecting them to be ignored.

    Has anyone else noticed this, or have people just been acting like this to me?
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    Hi JoostinOnline and welcome to Wiihacks!

    Seriously though, it comes with the territory. Some people just have no class and/or sense of respect. They expect things to be handed to them on a silver platter. Other people get it, and do their part. Just the way the world works.

    It's not unexpected to respond to repeated ignorance resentfully, and I know I understand your feeling that way. I can't remember the post, I know it was one of emu's game guide threads, but sometime last year I basically called a good lot of people a bunch of toddler's in diapers for all their professed whining. It was probably the single darkest post I've made on here lol. I stood by my sentiments, but it was also a good indicator for me to know when to stop posting for a while.

    Not saying you're anywhere near that, as I usually find your posts over the top with humor, but some friendly advice nonetheless.
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    I've just noticed this too, on a few different threads. I just had someone completely skip my post and respond to the mr. 10 post. http://www.wiihacks.com/wiihacks-new...tml#post534116 You will know by what i mean when i said
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    Joostin, I saw that one a little earlier. you couldnt be any more clear about saying to follow every step in guide. They claimed they did and then said they softmoded a year ago. lol I was very suprised that you continued to try and help after that I am sure you were feeling like you were talking to yourself. I look at it this way, if I am asking for help because I can't figure something out or find what I need. Anyone who gives me advice I 1. Thank them 2. Read their entire reply and 3. Follow every single direction and if it doesnt work try it again before asking them for further instruction.
    To say you did everything you were instructed to and then say you skipped steps because you didnt think they mattered. Then complain when it doesnt work???
    Anyways Joostin, I see you help a lot of people and don't let the ones who there is no hope for get to you.

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    @LiNkZoR - I don't blame you for your response in that thread and understand the sentiment. That user was already warned in his last thread about that and decided to do it again. Silly people are silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoostinOnline View Post
    You were far kinder though. People have just been [insert a word I can't say on a family forum] lately. Here is another example. Apparently I didn't present a good argument as to why my advice mattered.
    Yeah that sounds about right. I think some people just want to see a special title or that red text sitting by the avatar before they'll listen. Then you have the other ones who completely ignore the title and post count, and will only listen to low-count posters because they're "less biased" or whatever. Usually it's just a matter of not hearing what they want to hear, so they choose to ignore until reality hits them.

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    @Ithian: . . . I doubt I can resist posting on WiiHacks completely, but I think/hope you guys can hold down the fort for a couple of days, so I'll try taking your advice.
    I think now the many buddies you've made here at Wiihacks are going to flood me with hate mail for inspiring you to take some time away, if you do, as everyone will miss your witty humor.

    I also think I'm going to make a lot of new friends for inspiring you to take some time off.
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    If the newbies brick their Wii for not listening, should we even give them support in the Bricked section?
    Y'know, give them a taste of their own medicine, then see how long it takes for them to notice it was all their fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoostinOnline View Post
    In the past people have usually been grateful to get help, and will follow directions. Maybe two weeks ago, I started having to put emphasis on following all the steps by writing it in bold or underlining them. That worked for about a week. After that, I started telling people to follow all directions twice, once in the instructions, and once at the end of the post. The past couple of days, I've noticed newbies saying "no" flat out.

    This whole thing has started to try my patience, and I've started acting a bit harsh. I know that doesn't help, and it may even be making the situation worse. It gets harder to help people if they won't accept it. It's not about people no longer saying "thanks so much" after being helped, although I will admit it was nice. It's that I've started typing instructions and suspecting them to be ignored.

    Has anyone else noticed this, or have people just been acting like this to me?
    I have to say I regularly go over the newbie section and read posts from people I know are knowlegable just to see if I can learn something. I have noticed especially with you Joostin people are ignoring parts and your blatantly posting follow everything. Some times its just good to get away from it all. Perhaps try spending a whole day or two away. I know spring breaks got to be close maybe schedule a too due date with friends and get off here for a day or two. I am on spring break and will be at a water park on Monday and Tuesday. It will be nice to get away from everything. As much as I will miss this place I will also be glad to not check my emails every five min.

    @ binary- It depends on you and the person who posted if they fudged up and want real help and will follow it I see no reason not to help. But if you know its someone who was warned and or will not follow steps and have 20 to 30 threads on why stuff isn't working eventually you might have to just give in to the fact some people can't be helped.
    Last edited by supermasterpig; 03-03-2011 at 07:32 PM.
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    i think you give advice and when they ignore it give it them in simple terms and if they ignore it agian ask if they will enjoy there big white paper weight

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    The best are the newbs who didn't mod there own Wii, have no idea what they are doing, and come looking for help.

    You tell they to upgrade there cIOS.... what is a cIOS, and how do I do that?

    You show them a thread on cIOS and they come back wanting spoon to mouth.

    I can't do it..........

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