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    Ossot is right to an extent, i've been planning on having a cleanup since TBR has been proved to be pretty much the best thing that has happened to wii hacking. I'm waiting for the release of ciosr14 to see what it brings to the table then i shall be finishing off a guide ive been working on and de-stickying a lot of the out dated ones....i may even get started today as i got a day off

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    im sorry, im not wit hthe times right now. whats TBR?

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    Truch Bug Restorer as used in this post: http://www.wiihacks.com/other-faq-gu...s-any-wii.html it works for everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThetaSigma View Post
    I OBJECT

    if the thread is so old it is never used, delete it by all means!
    A discussion forum is essentially a repository for information. By deleting posts, you are playing god and removing information that only you deem as fit for the masses. There is no reason (unless the database's physical size is an issue) to go through this excercise since all you essentially do is open up awhole other bag of worms. What stays, and what goes?

    I use alot of old and obsolete posts just for research purposes. Just to read and understand the evolution of unlocking a Wii console is interesting for me. My fetish for reading is completly irrelevant to the regular visitor here. But it is my choice, and my choice alone on how I utilize this forum. That choice should not be taken away just because someone else questions the post/threads viability.

    By process of natural selection, a post with valid and current information will remain active and at the top of the stack. If not, it will naturally fall to the bottom of the stack.

    As I stated earlier, Stickys are different. Stickys are artificially held at the top of the stack because they are deemed to have current information that the Staff feels is important. When a Sticky becomes obsolete, just remove the Sticky tag for it... let it stay in the same section for anybody to reference for what ever reason in the future. It will just fade away, but it will still be available in the database. When a noob comes on and is looking for the latest fix... he will not see the obsoleted tutorials. He will see the current Stickys with the current methods.
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    my sentiments exactly fred

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    dogeggs for president.

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    Us i agree

    excellent point of view fred bear. i know i still reference older material from time to time for my own reasons. that is a good suggestion to keep all the data but only have the current held at the top.
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    Ya that's all I'm wanting. Not erasure. You two exemplify what I was saying. A noob just wants to get backups working. Once people get a little experience under their belt, they wont be confused by the advanced things AND will be able to find them as they will know what they are looking for.

    Having a TON of information is never a bad thing. Presenting a novice that doesn't know what they're doing a TON of information is NOT helpful. They have no means to know how to sift through it and immediately recognize what is oudated, irrelevant to their needs, etc...

    edit: Also bm, i just now read your first reply. LOL. I wish life on these forums was that easy. That's some idealistic mentality there. Well if the noobs read blah blah. Most don't, and a lot of the ones that DO get confused. People, by and large, are complete idiots. Spend some time in the softmod sections. After you see your 500th thread asking why his Wii wont read his ISO named mariogalaxy.rar.. after you see the uptenth "i have 37 copies of an iso, they go from mariogalaxy.r00 to mariogalaxy.r37, what do I do".. you really lose faith in humanity.

    You really have to look at the softmod'ing as if your grandma is going to find this site and attempt it. Also, guides are guides. They are the "here's what to do." People project a lot of authority onto guides. It's the guide. It knows what I need to do. They're on 3.4. They see three different guides telling them three contradicting things about what to do with 3.4. The end result of all three is playing back ups, however all 3 take vastly different paths there. What happens? One of three things, Noob picks one and does it perfect. 2) Noob does all three and ends up bricking. Or 3) noob does none and asks out of confusion.

    Again... it's like dropping a 6 year old down in a huge library and just telling them to go get their learn on. If they fail, they lose their precious toys. The noobs here need to age some AFTER they do what they set out to do. Then they'll have the skillset and knowledge to properly browse the wiihacks library..
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    i know its wishful thinkin that noobs will come on here and read the basics tutorials first before they attempt to do what they want. i, like you ossot, am well aware of the intelligence of most people. myself on the other hand did read the fundamental tutorials before i softmodded because i didnt understand ios's and wads and this n that. thats why i think there should be a tutorial section dedicated to learning the fundamentals of wii modding. put all those tutorials into one central place. that way if somebody does want to read the fundamentals, all of them will be together with nothing else cluttering them up.
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    I agree in part and have already mentioned this to fatal in regard to (GB etc), this cleanup has to be done with all tutorial/Forum posters onboard otherwise you will upset many people. I agree that there are many that need to be updated, merged or deleted and that is something that the admin will have too look at. There are people who have spent many hours writing these tutorials, they need the opportunity to either update or remove at the very least.

    I disagree with one post will cover all, I personally have had to try several methods to try and reinstall IOS/cIOS when I have had corrupted files. Simply because not every console goes according to plan depending on what has or hasn't been installed correctly previously.

    I mean Softmods for Dummies will work on a virgin wii 80%+ if the batch installer doesn't corrupt cIOS. If the wii has been modded previously, not as reliable and depends on model. I then look to Dog's posts for guidance, before looking elsewhere.

    ModderMan is very much aware of these issues, but with up to 1000 people joining per day, he has his hands full.
    GOOD MEN SLEEP SOUNDLY
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    STAND READY TO DO VIOLENCE ON THEIR BEHALF IF THEY DON'T INSTALL IOS 38, 53, 55.

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