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    Another USB 3.0 Issue

    I hacked my 4.1 Wii over a year ago using a guide I found here. I had (and still have) great success with that hack. I have a 1.5 TB WD My Book USB HDD that I use with my Wii, the partition I use is formatted WBFS.

    A friend got a Wii and asked for my help with the hack. It is a 4.3 Wii and I successfully hacked it, again, using a guide I found here (I believe it was mauifrog's). I tested it with my USB HDD and it worked like a charm! So far so good.

    Then my friend went out and got a USB HDD, and the closest we could find to the model I had in the store was a 2TB WD My Book USB HDD. The only difference between my WD HDD and my friend's WD HDD is that my friend's is a half a TB larger and my friend's HDD is also a USB 2.0 AND USB 3.0 drive.

    I formatted the new HDD with WBFS (same as the one that works) and using WBFS Manager 3.0 I cloned my drive to the new drive. Everything looks good in WBFS Manager, I can properly load the new HDD and see the games on it.

    But when I plug it into the Wii and use the USB Loader GX or the Configurable USB Loader or any other USB loader I've tried (uloader, etc.), they either don't recognize the drive or are unable to mount it. I get timeout errors and some other strange behavior such as when the timeout is counting down, the count moves extremely slow but if I unplug the USB HDD, the count starts to move at a normal speed. Plug it back in, it slows down again.

    According to the compatibility list, the drive is compatible but there is a troubling note associated with that drive that says "Do not use the USB 3.0 version, this fails. It quickly becomes unstable, games freeze/crash, apps freeze/crash. I solved the problem by getting a supported drive, but I could not get the USB 3.0 version to work with Wii (this system seems to have the same internals as the USB 3.0 Seagate drive below based on labels and components)."

    Not wanting to give up so easily, I kept looking. I've done a lot of digging through forums looking for someone with a similar problem and I found a few of them. One of them came to the conclusion that it must be that the drive itself is not compatible. This was after trying several different patch versions etc. that were thought to be related to the problem. I almost gave up here.

    Then I found a post that gave me a glimmer of hope, which I will quote, emphasis added:
    I just got a WD mypassport USB3/USB2 and it won't work with 222.
    My working setup for now is r20 249,57 globally and hermes v5.1 223,37 for some games.
    For people who use a WBFS partition, the solution is to use an older revision of USB Loader GX (r938 doesn't work even using r249)
    So I tried with an older revision of USB Loader GX, r883. To my surprise and delight, this worked! The USB device loaded with no issue and I could now see all of the games on the drive. However, when I try to start any of the games, the Wii reboots and goes back to the channels screen. I then tried each single separate revision one at a time and got varying results, sometimes it rebooted back to the channels screen, sometimes it just went back to the Homebrew channel but it always went to either the channels screen or homebrew channel no matter what revision I used and it never started any of the games (I tried several). I forget which version started to not be able to initialize the WBFS partition on the HDD but it was higher than r910 and all the subsequent higher revisions also failed to initialize the HDD.

    Am I wasting my time trying to get this thing to work? Should I take the drive back and find one that isn't a USB 3.0 drive? Or is there someone adventurous out there that can help me figure out how to get the games to actually launch?

    Thanks in advance for your time and help.

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    Next time someone asks me what the most recent book I read was. I am going to remember this very very long post. Personally I think the USB 3.0 is not worth trying because everyone complains about it and I haven't heard any success stories. I wonder if the 3.0 is backwards compatible with 1.0 and if not that the problems start there.

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    I know, I tend to be verbose, my apologies. As I can tell, the symptoms I have had are uncomfortably common with various different drives and the common thread seems to be that they are all USB 3.0 drives. I am beginning to agree that USB 3.0 isn't worth the trouble and I'm this close to returning the drive and finding one on the compatibility list that isn't USB 3.0 but I'm also intent to explore all the options before, err, closing the book. I think it will be more and more difficult to find new drives going forward that aren't USB 3.0 and it's not a bad idea to try and figure out the compatibility issues with them that may also apply to other users.

    Any ideas would be helpful.

    The guy that posted about using the older revision of the USB loader GX was on to something, that got me farther than I'd previously been. Now I just need to figure out why the Wii is resetting when launching any game. If I can solve that, I can use the drive. And though I have seem similar issues reported by others in terms of the Wii resetting when launching games, I haven't found any decent information on how the problem was solved, if it was ever solved. Disclaimer: I may not have looked hard enough and I'm still looking...

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    You are going to get a whole lot of TL;DR. LOL. I don't know a solution but you should probably edit out the part about cloning your drive for your buddy if you want help. Giving your buddy a copy of your drive = piracy. Piracy = against the site rules. Against the rules = no member support and potential mod involvement.
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    Thanks for the tip, I supposed I should have been more explicit in that I did this to validate the drive, not to "give my buddy a copy of my drive" and that I'll be reformatting once I do. It is a good thing that I did because I haven't been able to successfully validate it yet and I'm not going to turn my buddy loose with a non-working hack.

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    Kind of makes sense. I would copy a game or two personally rather than clone my whole drive but to each their own.
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    I had a similar problem before, you need to make sure your drive is active... Try looking for a guide on formatting your external harddrive. I hope it helps...

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    Talking

    I had the same issue none of the loaders could see the drive. Updated with this guide http://www.wiihacks.com/other-faq-gu...cios-wads.html chose Extra: Install All Recommended cIOS and then update your loader to the newest version. and it now works like a dream with all the main loaders.

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    USB 3.0 2tb hd

    I have the same problem! Uloader will not work......does not find hd at all Tried the link above but i can seem to find the password!

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