Thank you, i am reading through the steps now
i did manage to use neogamma and load the sd card from that, i then set neogamma to sd and pressed A. it then appeared with the game title at the top of the page so i pressed A again and it started loading but then it told me it couldn't read any menu file iso. then went blank and then came up with a disc error.
I think i have things set up ok, im starting to wonder weather its the game or what. ( i will still take your advice and softmod from what you linked me )
I have read through it and it is the same as what i have already done.
Try uninstalling and reinstalling the wiiflow forwarder - then install the wad from that guide and use the app files from that guide. Maybe the problem is isolated to a bad forwarder or app files.