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    Quote Originally Posted by red_monkey
    Fine... I'm just a bit surprised at the lack of curiosity in beating the copy protection that Devolution uses. I would have thought it would be a hot topic of conversation.
    It is what is is, there's nothing we can do about it. Teudj will not release the source code because he knows the first thing that will happen is someone will strip the AP and he doesn't want that cause he doesn't want to be associated with piracy.

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    Sure... but there must be a way to circumvent the copy protection... inject the BCA, hack the program, or generate the DVV files somehow. This "nothing we can do about it" attitude seems rather out of place on a site called Wiihacks. It was only a few months ago that it was widely believed that there could never be a USB loader for GC games... and now look. Nothing is impossible.

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    What would be the point of cracking the AP code? It's a waste of time, all you need to do is pop in the disc for the ONE TIME verification and you're done, it's all USB loading from there. So what need is there to remove the AP except for people that are too cheap to buy their games?

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    There are several reasons why... dead drives, scratched discs, region-free gaming, availability of GC discs to buy etc... but even if that weren't the case, you would expect hackers to want to crack it on principle. That's what they do, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by red_monkey
    There are several reasons why... dead drives, scratched discs, region-free gaming, availability of GC discs to buy etc... but even if that weren't the case, you would expect hackers to want to crack it on principle. That's what they do, isn't it?
    1) Dead drive: Easily fixed, cost between $5-$50 depending on the specific issue

    2) Scratched discs: Can be cleaned/resurfaced for no more than $5 a disc

    3) Region Free gaming: that's why we have Priiloader

    4) Availability of GC discs to buy: ...what exactly do you mean by this? I know what it sounds like you mean but I'd prefer not to assume.

    And no, it's not a principal issue. The hackers of the Wii community aren't gonna say "oh, it uses anti-piracy? Well hah! I'll crack that so anyone can use it!" And even if they did want to lots of luck trying without the source code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_monkey View Post
    There are several reasons why... dead drives, scratched discs, region-free gaming, availability of GC discs to buy etc... but even if that weren't the case, you would expect hackers to want to crack it on principle. That's what they do, isn't it?

    I agree with red_monkey, remember that GC is history, no production console nor its game discs years ago, our beautiful developers help revive our memories by allowing us to play some hard to find backups (good games that may be only selling in some region but not others).

    The AP introduced from the recent release backup launcher is nothing but an idiot, even I had the original disc before, either I trashed them or trade them before they become worthless.

    Who will spend money and places to keep the out-of-date video games? Only collectors do, but I'm not.

    If that stupid one wants AP, use it in PS1, Sega Saturn, or SNES, Genesis emulator, see what people will think...

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    This is going nowhere fast, like it or not piracy is piracy and not supported here. Whether you like it not Devolution requires a authentic disc for the ONE TIME verification and I seriously doubt teudj is going to do away with AP just because some cheapskates won't go buy their games...please. To those of you asking "what's the big deal, GC is an old dead system anyway." Go read the forum rules.

    Thread closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gng4

    1) The AP introduced from the recent release backup launcher is nothing but an idiot, even I had the original disc before, either I trashed them or trade them before they become worthless.

    2) Who will spend money and places to keep the out-of-date video games? Only collectors do, but I'm not.

    3) If that stupid one wants AP, use it in PS1, Sega Saturn, or SNES, Genesis emulator, see what people will think...

    1) I guess you're s.o.l, either go buy the games again or make your own GC USB loader that has no AP

    2) Who, you ask? People who see an old GameCube game and say to themselves "no way, they have this one?! That was one of my favorites!" Having games from an old system doesn't mean you're a collector, it just means you like games from old systems.

    3) Try putting a PS1, Sega Saturn, SNES or Sega Genesis game into a Wii and see what happens :|

    Wii has NEVER, at any point in time, been able to read discs other than GameCube and Wii and has never had a cartridge slot...therefor adding that type of AP to a PS1, Saturn, SNES or Genesis emulator would render the emulators useless as no one would ever be able to verify their games no matter what they did.

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