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    Hi Moebius,

    You might be able to find some settings for your usb drive to turn off "spin down" as well. I had to pop a drive out if an enclusure to get that done properly. Pain, but sometimes useful. One Wii system with a usb 3.0 1TB drive seems to be the most offensive of the lot, but mostly only in WiiMC. CFG and Mighty Channels seem to be happy. I will have to try d2x v9beta on that one! Thanks for the input

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    Quote Originally Posted by twtwitter
    You might be able to find some settings for your usb drive to turn off "spin down" as well. I had to pop a drive out if an enclusure to get that done properly. Pain, but sometimes useful.
    Likewise, thank you for the info. I've been listening to the HDD I have, and here's what I've noticed.

    The HDD works with USBLoader GX 2.0. Anything after is a bust.

    However, using the Softmod ANY Wii guide, namely the IOSs, and using USBLoader GX 3.0 IOS222 version, it works, too. But, when it reloads IOS249, it dies again.

    The HDD does in fact spin down. At least, with the new device handlers in GX after v2.0. I've sent in a request at the code site to see what we can get going. I'm thinking, with a rebuild on the handlers, a secondary version for problem HDDs could be made, but keep the first version. As a suggestion for anyone else with HDD problems that's reading this thread, try running GX 2.0. You'll lose a few things, but you'll gain more. Good luck!

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    WiiMc has a tech forum on harddrives specifically. They helped me fix my spin down problem. There is a test utility created by Tantric of WiiMC and you could use his utility to "test" your harddrive for real spindown problems. It's a nice utility.

    http://www.wiimc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1033


    But I am thinking, if you are having so many problems with all those harddrives, it's NOT a drive problem, but a Wii software problem...

    I made a little manual on how to setup Config USB Loader well, you might want to take a look at it, if I already shot this to you, my apologies. Definitely I would upgrade your D2x to ver 8 or even 9 beta, and play with that. IMO though, D2x v7-final is rock solid stable, but you might have some other sw compatibility issues going on.

    How to Manually upgrade / fresh install your Configurable USB Loader without losing anything
    http://www.wiihacks.com/lounge/10269...tml#post655778
    Last edited by twtwitter; 05-23-2012 at 12:00 PM. Reason: add more

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    Once again, much appreciated. :-) I've run through mauifrog's guide (and I'll admit, I was a n00b once and used Pimp...) twice now, only stopping long enough to upgrade to d2x's v9 beta IOS249 and adding on DML. Md5s checked. And, according to Toshiba's website, customer reviews put it at 2 stars. I wish I could tap into it and remove the spin down, but Toshiba has no programs to tweak the HDD. The only remaining option (besides buying a new one, which I won't do until I can get a 2TB HDD) would be to crack it open, grab an enclosure, and run with it, or just sit on what I have.

    Anyways, I guess it's back to work for me. Won't be on my Wii or computer till tomorrow evening sometime, so I'll edit this post with an update then.

    Edit 1: Sorry for the confusion, BTW. I only have one HDD. I've tested 3 other HDDs on my Wii. My dad's works fine, as does 2 sisters'. The HDD I'm using has been identified as a "problem child".
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    Oh, that is different. Ok, so it is just one bad harddrive. Yeh, it's a drive issue, and probably to do with spindown issues. At least that was my issue with a 1TB usb 3.0 drive that kept spinning down. Well, I am sure the usb 3.0 channel was not a happy match either but whatever.

    If I remember correctly (it was a while ago) I used this program "Hdparm for Windows" , if you physically need the program, just PM me. But you will need to rip that drive out of the enclosue and slave it to your computer (sata or esata). I would read up on hdparm. Your goal is to disable the spindown function perminantely. Yes.... the drive will always spin, BUT if your issue is a spindown issue, you basically will have solved it. Another solution might be to upgrade the bios to your Toshiba drive (didn't know Toshiba made drives, you sure it's not OEM'ed through some other manufacture?). IBM has old maxtor make there's. There are mashita, WD, seagate, fujitsu, hitachi, etc...
    I would push hard on the bios update front, then you don't need to mess with hdparm. See'ing the drive IS having issues, I would just open up it's current usb enclosure, you can always put it back together, I assume you will not be doing a warranty, and get the actual model number of the physical drive. (actually I just had a rethink here, I don't want to be the reason why your drive will not get back together if you don't do it well. I will leave this question totally up to you. Some usb drives are easier to open then others!). Then try to google the model number to find a bios update for it. You will only really be able to do a bios update of the drive while it's outside the enclosure anyways, usually. You could always get a cheap enclosure as well..., but it's probably a drive issue and you might as well just fix it.

    Also, putting the drive through a spinrite, drive fix/surface scan might be a good choice, as you have really NO idea how the plator is, if the drive is messing up, a surface scan is always a good thing. No, don't buy a new drive, fix the one you have and earn a tonne of experience. It pays off in spades later, as you can better debug other systems, and you are worth more. PM me for spinrite app concerns. I have no idea if spinrite WILL SEE a usb harddrive, it would need to be tested. You just burn a spinrite iso to CD, attach usb drive, detach all internal drives, reboot system and see if it "sees" the usb drive. If not, you have to pull it out of the usb case and slave directly to your PC system via sata.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moebius_2033 View Post
    upgrade to d2x's v9 beta IOS249 and adding on DML.
    Hi Moebius, please let me know how the DML works out. My future plan is to go that route to setup Gamecube games off of Config.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twtwitter
    Hi Moebius, please let me know how the DML works out. My future plan is to go that route to setup Gamecube games off of Config.
    As stated earlier, I'm not at home right now, but that was one thing I did before I left. :-)

    DMLr58 works fantastic for me. Any version after that, I keep getting the "Loading apploader..." locked up screen. And for obvious reasons (mainly me not tinkering with it a lot yet), I'm not able to run PAL yet. Only NTSC-U games ATM. One thing to keep in mind is that I'm running GX basically exclusively (reasons: for my wife, and until I can get the HDD issue resolved), so I'm not able to tell you how CFG will react. Hope that helps.

    Sent from my Motorola Backflip using WiiHacks, which really needs a widget..... Oh, well.....
    Last edited by moebius_2033; 05-24-2012 at 08:32 AM. Reason: Fixed DML revision used

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    Hi Moebius,

    Cool. You can always run Config along side with GX, they won't harm each other from what I have seen. My systems are all NTSC and with Config, and they play both PAL and NTSC games perfectly (well except Adventures with Tin Tin, but I think that is a game issue), and that is with a lot of games! But whatever

    Let the team know how things work out...

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    So, a couple things today. First, popped the HDD open. It has the..... not sure exactly what to call it..... tiny SATA-like connector for the cable directly attached to the board, so the "enclosure" is just plastic. I have no way to directly attach it to my computers, so hdparm is out. I've looked for a BIOS update, to no avail. And I double-check, it is a Toshiba drive inside.

    So, did a few more tests last night after work. IOS222 LOVES my drive. That is, if I keep GX from reloading IOS249 at any point, but then I can't play any games. I get the "2 extra seconds" needed for spinup, as expected. Tried reformating to WBFS/FAT32, but it didn't help, so I went back to strictly FAT32. Once again, also reloaded GX v2.0. Worked flawlessly. IOS249 loaded, detected the HDD, and played, and as I said before, I've sent in a Request ticket over at the code site for a fork of v3.0 that might solve a lot of problems for a lot of people. If I didn't like v3.0 with DML support so much, I'd go back to v2.0 (which I may do anyways). I'm about to run the WiiMC test utility, and I'll edit this post with its findings.

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