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    Need Help With Basics - Pitfalls and Known Issues?

    Hello. First of all, apologies for making a post like this, but I am starting to get overwhelmed with the information out there, and which parts are relevant to me.

    I just got a 2nd hand Wii from a friend. I have checked online, and there is a 50% chance my Wii is a D2C. For that reason, and simple convenience, I am considering putting a DriveKey into it. Namely, this one.

    As far as I understand it, all I have to do is open up the Wii, install the chip, then I can play backups of games, correct? Or is there more to it than that?

    Can I connect to the internet safely with this?

    Are there any known issues with using these?

    Are there any games are will definitely not work with this chip?

    I see people saying to not update through the Wii. Does that mean there is another method to keep your Wii up-to-date? Can I download updates from a reliable souce, then 'install' them onto my Wii, so I get the benefits of the update without the drawbacks?

    Is there anything else I can do once my Wii is chipped, other than play backups? Before I got this Wii, I didn't even have knowledge of what an unmodded Wii can do, let alone a modded one. I don't have a controller for it yet (ordered one last night), so I cannot even check the basics.

    I hope someone out there is felling generous and can help me

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    As far as I understand it, all I have to do is open up the Wii, install the chip, then I can play backups of games, correct? Or is there more to it than that?
    No, that's basically it.

    Can I connect to the internet safely with this?
    Yes but avoid updating to 4.2 as it'll prevent you loading out of region games with the modchip.

    Are there any known issues with using these?
    Probably but I don't have that information.

    Are there any games are will definitely not work with this chip?
    I think pretty much everything works in some fashion with modchips, even NSMB with it's BCA encryption has workarounds.

    I see people saying to not update through the Wii. Does that mean there is another method to keep your Wii up-to-date? Can I download updates from a reliable souce, then 'install' them onto my Wii, so I get the benefits of the update without the drawbacks?
    Up until the advent of 4.2 the only real way to keep a hardmodded Wii up to date with latest games was to run disc updates, now since 4.2 is appearing on discs this no longer makes sense. To keep up to date you would need to consider softmodding in addition to your hardmod to install IOS as required as games are released with newer revisions/versions.

    Is there anything else I can do once my Wii is chipped, other than play backups? Before I got this Wii, I didn't even have knowledge of what an unmodded Wii can do, let alone a modded one. I don't have a controller for it yet (ordered one last night), so I cannot even check the basics.
    A modchip will provide you with a few things.
    1) Ability to load out of region games (not in 4.2 though)
    2) Ability to load backup games on DVD-R directly from the disc channel.
    3) Allow you to boot directly to a game with the correct configuration of the modchip.

    They are simple beasts after all.

    A nice softmod can provide you with Emulators, Media playing capability, brick protection, USB loading etc.

    I have both hard and softmods and am very happy with my setup.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    Thanks for the information.
    I didn't want to softmod, purely because there are so many steps, and seemingly so many things to go wrong. I have to wait a fortnight before I can free up some cash to buy a chip anyway, so I'll try and brush up on my knowledge before then.
    Is there any disadvantage to not updating the Wii and/or games?

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    If you don't update your IOS you will find that newer games will not work. You can block updates from disc using the modchip but eventually the latest games will not load and just black screen on you. If you intend only playing games from your own region then by all means follow the update route, however be aware that Nintendo may have future fixes that may even break modchip loading, who knows what SM 4.3/5.0+ will bring us when it is released in the coming months.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tealc View Post
    If you don't update your IOS you will find that newer games will not work. You can block updates from disc using the modchip but eventually the latest games will not load and just black screen on you. If you intend only playing games from your own region then by all means follow the update route, however be aware that Nintendo may have future fixes that may even break modchip loading, who knows what SM 4.3/5.0+ will bring us when it is released in the coming months.
    Ok, thanks again. I have been looking through the Softmod tutorials, and although it seems scary at first, I am slowly thinking it through. If I choose Softmod and Hardmod, do I still follow the same softmod tutorial on this website, or do I have to skip any steps?
    Also, I am not entirely certain what the point of hardmodding is, if you already have softmodded.

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    Whether you have a hardmod fitted or not has no bearing on any tutorial you follow to softmod.

    A hardmod is a chip that affects the way the Drive works, while a softmod changes the internal software of the Wii so it can run homebrew code and custom IOS.

    I could happily remove my modchip today and suffer no ill effects as I use primarily the softmod on my Wii to load from USB, however I still use the disc channel to load Gamecube and the occasional Wii disc backup just because I can. Money was no issue for me so I hardmodded first and then softmodded to get the USB functionality, which as it happens is now available for pure hardmod users in the form of the excellent Wode and Sundriver mods.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    Ok, next potentially stupid question - I have a 16GB flash drive, could I load that up with games, Softmod my Wii, plug it in and play them?
    Because if I have to go through the palaver of softmodding my Wii, regardless of whether I have a hardmod or not, I'll probably just save the money on the chip and go softmod-only. I wont be bothering with Gamecube games. The Sundriver and Wode are both too expensive, considering I'll probably only be using the Wii for a few backup games.

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    I have a 16GB flash drive, could I load that up with games, Softmod my Wii
    Possibly, if it's compatible. If you aren't going hardmod route then this is now the wrong section to discuss this further really.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tealc View Post
    Possibly, if it's compatible. If you aren't going hardmod route then this is now the wrong section to discuss this further really.
    Ok, thanks once again
    I bit the bullet and got myself the DriveKey (BCA Yellow Sticker Version), a stack of 16x Verbatim DVD-R's, and a TriWing screwdriver.
    Will the Wii allow me to update to a certain version, or will it only allow the latest update? I.E. can I let it update to 4.1, then block future updates?

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    Ok. You could use New Super Mario Bros, Red Steel 2 and a few other game discs to update to 4.1 and grab a few updated IOS. For a list of games and IOS and also System Menu on disc check this thread http://www.wiihacks.com/recommended-...s-use-run.html This will have you set for a while. The only game I am aware of that has 4.2 is Endless Ocean 2, so avoid that. You could always run this setup until you hit problems and then look into softmodding to install new IOS to run the new games that refuse to work.

    You cannot block Internet updates with a modchip but you can have it block disc updates by configuring the relevant setting.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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