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    When i got to step 4 and hit select DOL the Wii locked up. I had to turn the power off after 10 mins of nothing, upon reboot the Wii was in its current state. No video, will not load bootmii or priiloader

    I was using USB Loader GX r916 as a forwarder

    I have not changed the format of the hard drive except for using GUIformat at the start
    For anyone interested, I installed USBLoaderGX r916 and changed the Wii Sports Resort alt.dol to player.dol with no luck causing a full brick. Wii motion + video played without issue and WSR is working without issue. Still no proof
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    Oh another GX failure. I have to say you can argue all that you want "GX is not causing this"....well GX is loaded and is in use when this happens. So what else could it be? User error in selecting buttons in a GUI causes a full brick? Don't think so.

    You cant just assume everyone that bricks their wii using GX is stupid or causes it themselves somehow, that's unfair and illogical. When is that last time you noticed a post with Cfg or wiiflow bricked my Wii?

    Also, not sure why he was given a hard time for posting a link to the archive section guide as it just links to the current guide...
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    You're right, Krank, that's about the same thing I said like two weeks ago. In my opinion, a loader must not be capable of bricking a Wii, no matter what the user does. If a user is new to the mod-scene, and decides to use GX, he/she can easily brick his/her Wii without any further notification on what not to do. It's not stupidity, it's unfair to say that. Applications like DarkCorp come with a warning, GX doesn't. There are no cases known with CFG or WiiFlow, so I doubt it's a coincidence after about ten cases known about this. It's no proof that GX directly causes the brick, but it seems it's able to do so, and that's what bothers me. A loader should be safe to use, even while you're not familiar with it. PimpMyWii and DarkCorp are for bricks, not a loader. It's just not worth the risk it (possibly) brings with it. How big of a deal is it to change to another loader? And people thinking they're safe with BootMii/Boot2: sorry, but you're not. It formats the NAND it seems, so that'll delete Boot2 as well.

    Boom! Probably a little bit overdone, but I mean what I said.
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    No offense Krank but there is not any proof either way. The fact is that there are several very similar stories here on these very forums in fact just another today. The user is playing games using USB Loader GX, they get a black screen or the game freezes which forces a manual restart and eventually the Wii stops booting. Is it possible that it is caused by something else...? Sure is. Can we say for certain that it isn't GX.....? Not with all of the similar cases that are popping up more and more IMHO. Do we see this with config Loader or WiiFlow....? No we don't but they are different loaders by different developers.

    edit: here is someone that agrees with me.
    bricked wii, with usb loader GX? - GBAtemp.net
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    Can we say something else causes this logically when it ALWAYS happens when the person is using GX? No we can't. The most logical situation is that GX plays a part in this someway or somehow. Meaning if the user had not been using GX they would not have a brick.

    I would say that's pretty definitive. Very easy to avoid, do not use GX.


    I don't know how anyone can say it was solely caused by something else when its obvious the program being used at the time (or the way it communicated with something) caused the issues.


    Either way, it's just not worth it to me.
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    Well, at least I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

    I've been giving advice on using another loader quite a while, and I think I'll stick to that, even though 2.0 has been released.

    As the cIOS and GX are the only software running on the Wii at that moment, it has to be GX. I don't believe the cIOS causes the brick, or this would've happened with CFG and WiiFlow as well. If there's done something wrong by the user, and that would affect GX to brick a Wii, it's faulty anyway. Like I said, there's no proof, but it seems pretty obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krank View Post
    I would say that's pretty definitive. Very easy to avoid, do not use GX.
    I couldn't agree with you more. I myself stopped using it a while back and have started advising others to use either Config Loader or WiiFlow (which are better loader anyway I think).

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    I am now inclined to believe it is GX. It just seems weird that a loader would cause a brick. They are getting more frequent though. Previously I thought it was just a couple of cases, where the only common factor was GX, so it was blamed. It seemed like it might just be a coincidence.

    It's true that we can't prove GX is the cause for sure, but it isn't something to ignore. There isn't anything to suggest that it isn't GX.

    What I have been trying to figure out for a long time is, why do so many newbies end up with GX? I really don't see it promoted that much. A simple google search will show plenty of reasons why you shouldn't use it.
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    It doesn't make any sense why it'd be user-error to me. There's no warning whatsoever when using this application, so there shouldn't be any danger in using GX. There's just something wrong with the software, because it's, together with the cIOS, the only software running at that moment. There is a bug in there that causes this; it seems so obvious.

    @Joostin --- I know. There are waves of complaints about GX found on the internet. It's probably used by newcomers because they're included in some softmod guide, and because of the GUI. I've already suggested my girlfriend to use something else on her Wii, but she doesn't seem to listen either. Well, it's her Wii.
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    I think I used the word stupidity.... it was said because its common sense not to turn off anything in the middle of game saving. I think the games tell u that any way.

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