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    Quote Originally Posted by Krank View Post
    Based on the limited info the OP gave there is no way to determine if savemiifrii can be used or not (except by trying it).
    I just don't think you should suggest destroying a controller until we know if there is another way. Besides, it doesn't sound like he has Priiloader/Preloader/StartPatch installed, since guides say to install Bootmii first. Without turning off Diagnostic Disk Check, he won't be able to boot any games. If he did, then he would probably have cIOS's and the HBC. With those he could fix the Wii without wasting a controller.

    Basically, if you can run SaveMiiFrii, then you don't need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoostinOnline View Post
    I just don't think you should suggest destroying a controller until we know if there is another way. Besides, it doesn't sound like he has Priiloader/Preloader/StartPatch installed, since guides say to install Bootmii first. Without turning off Diagnostic Disk Check, he won't be able to boot any games. If he did, then he would probably have cIOS's and the HBC. With those he could fix the Wii without wasting a controller.

    Basically, if you can run SaveMiiFrii, then you don't need it.
    I skimmed over the article and yes, it looks like it's all true however, I'm not asking the OP to try recovery mode for any of those reasons. You can't do anything in his situation until he tests his wiimote. If the Wiimote syncs and powers on the console a savemii or savemiifrii is used to help diagnose the problem. If you know so much on this issue why not tell the OP how he should go about diagnosing his problem and fixing it. You're throwing your opinion around but offering no advice at all. The floor is yours...
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    Keep in mind that it is possible to use a GC for SaveMiiFrii without destroying it. All you have to do is take it apart and depress on the rubber pad itself. There is no need to break the plastic Dpad and put it back together like I have seen suggested.


    When you are all done with the test the controller can be put back together easy enough.... I have done it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krafter View Post
    Keep in mind that it is possible to use a GC for SaveMiiFrii without destroying it. All you have to do is take it apart and depress on the rubber pad itself. There is no need to break the plastic Dpad and put it back together like I have seen suggested.


    When you are all done with the test the controller can be put back together easy enough.... I have done it
    Worst case scenario you can't put it back together and your out $5 but you still have a $5 SaveMii.
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    Quote Originally Posted by streamlinehd View Post
    I skimmed over the article and yes, it looks like it's all true however, I'm not asking the OP to try recovery mode for any of those reasons. You can't do anything in his situation until he tests his wiimote. If the Wiimote syncs and powers on the console a savemii or savemiifrii is used to help diagnose the problem. If you know so much on this issue why not tell the OP how he should go about diagnosing his problem and fixing it. You're throwing your opinion around but offering no advice at all. The floor is yours...
    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to insult you. You have been part of this forum longer than I have, and I do respect your opinion.
    I admit that right now I don't really know what to tell the OP. I think it would be best if we wait until he can give more information. I simply don't see how only installing Bootmii as IOS could stop recovery/game discs from booting up.

    You said that Savemiifrii tells you a lot. If you don't mind, I would appreciate it if you would tell me for future reference. I don't see how it is useful, but I am always happy to learn more. It doesn't have to be now, but maybe you could send me a PM sometime.

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    Worst case scenario you can't put it back together and your out $5 but you still have a $5 SaveMii.
    GC controllers are $10~$20 depending if they are new or used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoostinOnline View Post
    I just don't think you should suggest destroying a controller until we know if there is another way. Besides, it doesn't sound like he has Priiloader/Preloader/StartPatch installed, since guides say to install Bootmii first. Without turning off Diagnostic Disk Check, he won't be able to boot any games. If he did, then he would probably have cIOS's and the HBC. With those he could fix the Wii without wasting a controller.

    Basically, if you can run SaveMiiFrii, then you don't need it.
    You don't have to destry a GC controller. I just cut off the little nub on my d-pad and have a fully functional GC controller which serves as a savemiifrii as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoostinOnline View Post
    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to insult you. You have been part of this forum longer than I have, and I do respect your opinion.
    I admit that right now I don't really know what to tell the OP. I think it would be best if we wait until he can give more information. I simply don't see how only installing Bootmii as IOS could stop recovery/game discs from booting up.

    You said that Savemiifrii tells you a lot. If you don't mind, I would appreciate it if you would tell me for future reference. I don't see how it is useful, but I am always happy to learn more. It doesn't have to be now, but maybe you could send me a PM sometime.
    It's no problem, this is an open discussion and you're entitled to your opinion. The goal here is to help the OP and I just didn't know what you had in mind if anything and that's why I asked. We know the problem isn't because of Bootmii as IOS but the OP still has a black screen at startup. Sometimes there just isn't any other information to go by. It seems the OP really thinks he bricked by installing Bootmii as IOS so now we need to know if it's a possible full brick, banner brick, hardware problem or other issue. SaveMiiFrii will help rule out some of those so we'll know what direction to go in to help get the issue resolved.
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    I didn't know you could fix the controller after using it for SaveMiiFrii, and I didn't know that loading the recovery menu told you anything, which is why I thought it was such a bad idea. I have always tell people not to do it, but I will stop now since I know it isn't pointless.

    Edit: When he says it doesn't boot up at all, maybe he means it won't turn on. That has happened to me during storms, and unplugging everything for 15 minutes (maybe less) fixes it.

    @pdmj Any new information that you can give about the wii would be helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoostinOnline View Post
    You really should read the article later. I think it will change your mind.
    If you actually unbrick Wii's, you would know that post is gibberish.

    Savemii/savemiifrii is very good for figuring out what is wrong, even if it doesnt fix your wii.

    The FIRST thing i do with a bricked wii, is try savemii (i have the proper dongle for ease), this lets me know where to start.


    Also streamline, you dont need to know if the Wiimote works before trying savemii, savemii WILL work if the bluetooth module is bad.

    Some examples for JoostinOnline:

    black screen + savemii working = see if wii remote syncs, if it doesnt its the BT module.
    Black screen + savemii not working = corrupt nand (missing ios's or what ever) or bad wifi


    This is why its a good test, the above 2 black screens look the same until you try the savemii. And you dont have to open the Wii to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad_Ad84 View Post
    If you actually unbrick Wii's, you would know that post is gibberish.

    Savemii/savemiifrii is very good for figuring out what is wrong, even if it doesnt fix your wii.
    I wouldn't say it is gibberish (and I do help unbrick Wii's), but I did learn that I was wrong about it being useless from streamlinehd. I had never considered getting information from it, only whether it would fix a Wii.

    From the OP's post, it sounds like he can't use SaveMiiFrii (I may be mistaken), because he says "it" doesn't boot up at all. If I knew what "it" was, I think this would be much easier. Is it the system itself, the System Menu, the recovery disc, Mario Kart, or something else?
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