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    I'm sure it wasn't reflashed correctly however, I'm almost positive if it was, the problem would still remain. You really think Homebrew would run "behind the scenes" and cause a brick? And a full brick at that?

    BTW - He replaced the wi-fi with a working one. Unless this was after a bad reflash and the wi-fi was the problem all along and now the problem is the bad reflash.

    And yes, I may have been wrong about the wi-fi and recovery menu.
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    I didnt say it was running behind the scenes and would cause a brick, I said you (aka almost everyone other than the author) dont know what homebrew is doing behind the scenes... therefore anything you run technically could brick you... intentionally or not.

    A bug in a homebrew app could cause a brick, its "behind the scenes" as you don't know exactly what its doing... you just take the authors word that its not doing something it shouldnt (or that they didnt miss a bug that would cause an issue).

    And I wasn't saying specifically that his issue was Wifi, I was correcting your statement that you can get into recovery mode with a faulty wifi module, which you cant.

    Even with hardware faults that cause no display, the drive light still blinks correctly. which this one isnt. therefore currently you cant class it as a hardware error as the nand clearly isnt flashed properly after his attempts to fix it. Currently this is where the diagnosis is stuck, until that is corrected assumptions cant be made.
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    I'm sure the nand programming just got him into more trouble in this case and that there's an underlying issue besides the bad flash. As far as the possible brick he describes it would be a full brick in which case IOS70/system menu was tampered with or removed or a corrupt boot1/boot2. Don't know what USB loader could cause that.
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    Any 3rd party software could *technically* cause that.

    As you said, his issue sounds like corrupt boot2 or IOS's which reprogramming his nand will fix... but you just said was a different hardware error...

    We need to not skip parts of the diagnosis.

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    Well it will be interesting to see where this goes. He should send it out to you and get it settled.

    Here's my thought process:

    1. Softmod complete - All works with no problems
    2. Ran Backups to test and all work except NSMB


    So far so good except possible issue with USB Loader/cIOS/IOS57 or maybe he just needs to search for a work around for that game.

    3. Plugged in USB Flash Drive = Black screen

    Okay possibly bad cIOS/USB Loader/Flash Drive

    4. Black screen on boot without any other softmods being made

    Possible BT Module/wi-fi/other hardware issue

    5. Can't access recovery menu

    Probably not BT issue

    6. Remote Powers on Wii

    Definitely not BT issue

    7. Flashed nand still black screen

    Bad flash/bad wi-fi/other hardware issue

    8. Replaced wi-fi and BT modules - Still black screen

    Sill possibly bad flash/wi-fi/other hardware issue since the black screen can now be because of the bad flash even though the wi-fi module was replaced.

    9. No blue blinks from DVD drive

    Assuming this is all in order, I beleive the issue is one or a combination of: Bad dvd drive/Bad flash/bad wi-fi/other hardware issue. If it's a bad flash then there has to be a another issue that caused the original black screen.

    I don't think I missed anything but assuming he left no detrimental information out, none of this leads me to a software brick prior to the nand flashing. I could be wrong.
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    First of all, thanks for all the interest in my post and even though I haven't been able to solve it, your posts help me reflect on this issue

    streamlinehd:
    In your last post, you pretty much sum up the issue at hand, in the correct order.
    Regarding your suggestion that IOS70 might have been removed, I'm positive that unless this happen "behind the scenes" of some app I didn't mess with it. Didn't touch anything which remotely looked like a uninstall of anything =)

    Bad_ad84:
    I'm gonna try removing the NAND from the Wii to reflash it out of curcuit. If this fails to, I'll try to get my hands on another flash image from a compatible boot1 wii and use betwiin to rehash the keys.

    Got any good leads on a fairly cheep tsop48 sockets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by streamlinehd View Post
    I don't think I missed anything but assuming he left no detrimental information out, none of this leads me to a software brick prior to the nand flashing. I could be wrong.
    See, in my experience these things do happen, and id go with the software brick happening at stage 3 - for what ever reason. changing the bt module and wifi didnt help, but he had already attempt a reflash which sounds to me like its not worked correctly - hence no drive light and voiding any diagnosis after this.

    Before id take a stab at other situations, id 100% confirm the nand is reflashed correctly. As i offered above, he can send just the nand chip to me and ill do it for free if he is capable of refitting it.

    and regarding tsop48 sockets, they generally arent very cheap.... last few i got were off ebay for around 10 each - SMT TSOP48 48 Pin Socket for Testing prototype,TP48 on eBay (end time 20-Sep-10 08:21:42 BST)

    I might have one left knocking around I could do cheaper, I will have to take a look at my stash of parts.

    and if you want a tsop48 adapter for programming - IC Bios Chip Programmer Tools Adaptor TSOP 48 TO DIP 48 on eBay (end time 09-Oct-10 00:50:54 BST)
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    Hi just a little status update from the bricked wii =) I got a good deal on 2 TSOP48 sockets for 25$ shipping included, so I'm waiting for them to arrive (should be a week or so).

    I'll update with news as it gets in =)

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    You got 2 sockets for $25? May I ask where? I purchased one for $45 and thought that was a good deal. Well, the socket will help make the job a little easier. Let us know where you end up once you get the reflash right. Good Luck!
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    He isnt talking about those type of sockets.

    look at the first link of mine a few posts up.

    second link is the type you are thinking of.

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