couple things I forgot. I went back and thanked erikie as this was the person whose post I found helpful. Second thing I wanted to ask. I have noticed the donate signs. Please explain proper donate protocol to someone who doesn't understand. Are you asking for donations to the website or personal donations ? or both ? I don't find it unreasonable to thank people who help but I don't want to offend by donating to the website if people are asking for a personal donation or vice versa ... is my question clear as mud ?