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    Haven't verified this but I think GH5 comes with 3.4 as the update, so a 3.4 update updates a 3.4 Wii, that makes little sense.

    That tutorial is woefully out of date now and I'm unable to find 8 steps.

    So the big question is what did you do to your Wii that could cause a 3.4 update to brick a 3.4 Wii. As with many things once you know what the problem is then the solution can present itself, although I must admit without bootmii boot2 or preloader you'll struggle.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    the system was on 3.2 and never updated to 3.4u. I DID install Bootmii, and Starfall (which I thought was supposed to make it so the wii can't get bricked). I know I have a USB loader on there as well that I was using to burn games to, since my drive is very loud.

    I'm guessing I didn't install bootmii the correct way and I'm 100% certain that I didn't make a backup...though if I pulled the SDcard and looked at it, is there something I should be looking for?

    Doing some google searching on 'black screen' 'wii' I came up with this link:
    RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting

    Should I try deleting the SD card and following the steps here?:

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    That video requires preloader installed, hence the reset button pressing request and consequent failure to load.

    There are two ways to install bootmii, one is as IOS (which is more or less useless as brick protection) and boot2 (which is very useful).

    Bootmii boot2 installs a bootmii folder onto the SD card and it has a few files that load.

    Just a thought...Did you previously have 4.0 or 4.1 and downgraded to 3.2 to install Starfall and USB Loader?
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    Hmm. Say he has Bootmii/boot2, but didn't make a nand backup. Could he go to the HBC from the Bootmii menu install a system menu wad version greater than his current or run Waninkokos firmware updater to overwrite whatever update came from that disc?? Trying to think of alternatives if I were in this scenario.
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    Nintendo' most inspired core game titles are stuck overseas. Nintendo Of America sux when it comes to the localization of these game titles as they court with their new found casual gamer/soccer mom audience this console generation. Thus indirectly promoting the growth of Homebrewing & basically telling their core audience if they want it, mod chip or Homebrew it. Thanks Nintendo! My Wii and its functionalities have never felt more complete than when I took my first sip of the Brew. - Brewaholic

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    Teal: Yes I believe it was at 4.0 at some point and I downgraded it to 3.2u.
    Brewaholic: Unfortunately it seems that I didn't install bootmii properly, hence the frustration. I can't get a preloader or a bootmii system menu.

    Is there anyway to get the wii to boot to a DVD that'll fix this? Or SD card?

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    @Brew - Yes cboot2 will allow alternate programs to be loaded instead of bootmii. In most cases this could be a Wad manager. A few guys have unbricked their Wiis using cboot2 and you can also re-install HBC using it. If no boot2 installed then no cboot2

    @sgall - The dreaded downgrade upgrade IOS50 stub brick issue rears it's ugly head again.

    When at 4.0 you have no need for IOS50 (3.4 System Menu) so the update writes an empty file IOS50-64-v5120 or stub. When you downgraded to 3.2 this file is left alone (unless you did the tutorial on Wiihacks which asks you to install IOS50). When you updated to 3.4 it would normally give you IOS50-64-v4889 but seeing as the version you had was higher it skipped the update.

    Now your Wii is left trying to load System Menu 3.4 from an empty place holding stub. The result a full brick.

    See my Warning thread for more information http://www.wiihacks.com/general-home...stem-menu.html

    Your Wii will not boot a autoboot disc, there's nothing there to tell the Wii to even do that. No 4.0 update will help.

    It's like trying to boot Windows without a Windows folder.

    Only boot2 would help you. You will probably need to send it back to Nintendo for a repair/replacement.
    Not really doing much Wii stuff these days.

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    If you have installed any wad channels ie. wiiware or VC stuff, don't send it in. If you haven't and make sure to take out the sd card (in case of any roms). The charge will probably be $90 if you are still under warranty. The reason I caution you on this is that I had a friend that sent his in with the sd card still in it and never get his wii back but nintendo fined him for "questionable" software. If it is out of warranty, may want to check the pawn shops, most have them for under $200, most are not running system menu 4.0 and most are dumb enough to offer a 6 month warranty for 10% and you can bring it back if you beick as long as there no evidence that you opened the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tealc99 View Post
    @Brew - Yes cboot2 will allow alternate programs to be loaded instead of bootmii. In most cases this could be a Wad manager. A few guys have unbricked their Wiis using cboot2 and you can also re-install HBC using it. If no boot2 installed then no cboot2

    @sgall - The dreaded downgrade upgrade IOS50 stub brick issue rears it's ugly head again.

    When at 4.0 you have no need for IOS50 (3.4 System Menu) so the update writes an empty file IOS50-64-v5120 or stub. When you downgraded to 3.2 this file is left alone (unless you did the tutorial on Wiihacks which asks you to install IOS50). When you updated to 3.4 it would normally give you IOS50-64-v4889 but seeing as the version you had was higher it skipped the update.

    Now your Wii is left trying to load System Menu 3.4 from an empty place holding stub. The result a full brick.

    See my Warning thread for more information http://www.wiihacks.com/general-home...stem-menu.html

    Your Wii will not boot a autoboot disc, there's nothing there to tell the Wii to even do that. No 4.0 update will help.

    It's like trying to boot Windows without a Windows folder.

    Only boot2 would help you. You will probably need to send it back to Nintendo for a repair/replacement.
    So is boot2 an option for me? (not sure what it is)

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    Hey, I have been reading this thread with intense interest as I am experiencing the exact same issue as the OP. A friend of mine came over and put his newly purchased Beatles Rock Band into my Wii and hit the System Update. He told me it updated normally and then rebooted but never came back. No audio or video. I had installed Starfall and bootmii but was not able to get into any sort of menu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjamikeus View Post
    Hey, I have been reading this thread with intense interest as I am experiencing the exact same issue as the OP. A friend of mine came over and put his newly purchased Beatles Rock Band into my Wii and hit the System Update. He told me it updated normally and then rebooted but never came back. No audio or video. I had installed Starfall and bootmii but was not able to get into any sort of menu.
    Amen brother! I'm not crazy. I knew I had downloaded those things and installed them!

    My prayers and wishes go out to ya Ninja

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