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A reason why downloading Torrents is Bad - You have been WARNED

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by , 08-03-2010 at 04:58 AM (19104 Views)
Just take a read of this letter and make you own mind.

This is a letter that landed on a friends door step recently.

It's not for a wii game and im not going to go into the politics of the whole thing but it does make you think.

These people are demanding £375 from each person. You can Buy the CDs for £9.99


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  1. Darkcide666's Avatar
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    It's just scare tactics. Do you know how many people shit bricks when they see one of those and pay up? lol I would send them a letter back and say take me to court. Given the cost and time of just filing the case wouldn't make it worth their while. Plus there is the potential that they may lose and have to pay all court and lawyer fees. And what's to say you don't have a unsecured wireless router that "someone else" was leaching off and downloading things illegally without your knowledge? It's held up in court before. Unless you are part of a scene group, a serious black hat hacker, or trading kiddy porn they are not going to go to the level of obtaining a search warrant for your computer, scouring your drives, and all that.
  2. narse1979's Avatar
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    Dont worry its all covered.... Thats why I said I wasn't getting into the politics
    Just read this crock
    Filesharing - the legal opinion

    Which? has been advised by an eminent Queen's Council, a barrister appointed by the Queen, that 'where a third party does manage to use the internet connection of a subscriber without his or her knowledge or consent and infringes copyright, the subscriber will not be liable for copyright infringement'. When told this, Simon Gallant said he disagreed.

    'In general, wireless routers are supplied with set-up instructions that password protect the wi-fi connection (unless the user chooses to opt out),' he countered. 'Furthermore, internet service providers require their customers to password protect their connection as part of their subscription contract.

    'Gallant’s view is that consumers who fail to secure their connections are acting unreasonably and run the risk of liability if a third party illegally file-shares using that connection. There may be exceptions to this position and we will look at each reply on its merits.'
  3. s0ur's Avatar
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    I know a "friend" that has gotten 6 letters like these already. Nothing has become of them in the past 5 years.
  4. narse1979's Avatar
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    YouTube - "Anti Piracy" Law Firms labeled a Scam in the House of Lords

    Money making schemes.

    I have just read the Solicitor use to be a DJ once himself lol
  5. mc197's Avatar
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    Now I'm scared to use the internet.
  6. wiiLike2Hacks's Avatar
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    Someone sue Gallant Macmillan :P
  7. s0ur's Avatar
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    They took the solid bar away from the bottom so they are safe, lol
  8. mc197's Avatar
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    For a second I thought that General Motors arrests people for piracy
  9. WarFox311's Avatar
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    Get PeerBlock or PeerGuardian for your comp then they cant see your IP
  10. billyhome's Avatar
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    turn the letter to police as the company has hacked into your network ! XD
  11. Chris0089's Avatar
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    Just DON'T use BitTorrent at all, it is simple as that.

    P2P file-sharing is a huge invasion of privacy, there are better alternatives to P2P file-sharing
  12. NightX's Avatar
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    dont use a public tracker/bittorrent and turn on the encryption. and never use any thing like limewire.
  13. skagg's Avatar
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    Seen this exact thing on that 1 show prog the other nite,and a supposed top solicitor said not to ignore this situation,but to ring the company if u know that u did not make that download and sort things out.
    She said not to take no notice,as it will not just go away.
  14. Traceable's Avatar
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    @Darkcide666: 10+
  15. narse1979's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by skagg
    Seen this exact thing on that 1 show prog the other nite,and a supposed top solicitor said not to ignore this situation,but to ring the company if u know that u did not make that download and sort things out.
    She said not to take no notice,as it will not just go away.
    All these people are trying to do is to get you to fall into their little trap so I wouldn't go ringing them they may just trip you up in conversation. A simple letter of denial is all that is needed.

    All this is, is a money making scheme for the Solicitor.

    All the information they have on you is your ip address and the acc holders name - What if you have 5 people in the hjouse, none owning it up to it. There are too many flaws to actually get this to court.

    They prey on people to slip up so they can pay and line the solicitors pocket.
  16. skagg's Avatar
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    I know what your saying narse,i your prob right,but this was on the 1 show (if your in the uk) and that little dom guy was doing a report on it,mainly about people getting these letters for downloads they had'nt really downloaded,and they were explaining that someone else in family or someone using your ip could have made the download.
    But she did say that these were genuine letters and that if you did not make that download you should contact that company and state your case.
    But she also warned that they are genuine and ignoring them will not mean it will just go away.
    This is just what was said,so weather its a fraud or real i suppose we'll find out in the future months.
  17. narse1979's Avatar
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    Its all speculation, clutching at straws - The one show was going on about ACS another company that were and still are still trying to persue people. GM have just jumped on the same wagon. As I said a LOD is all that is needed and if they persue you further then just send another one.

    If GM send out 2000 letters all demanding £375 and everyone was to pay up that would be a whopping £750,000. I bet you double that(fingers crossed) that the record producers get a tiny amount of that.
  18. killerkomb's Avatar
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    good thing filesharing is aloud in canada.
  19. narse1979's Avatar
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    Killerkomb - You might want to check that because I have heard Rogers/Bell give out warning letters for this kind of thing - More of a slap on the wrist than this scare mongering though.
  20. WarFox311's Avatar
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    Narse1979 - So, yeah PeerBlock or PeerGuardian aren't 100% neither are condoms and I'd still use one to protect me from the unknown. That being said, its kept my cable company off my back for the last year and a half I've been using them, you have to know I'm in the US and P2P file sharing is very illegal (unless your wanting to watch movies from the 50's or your sharing non-copyrighted music) but their are so many people file sharing hear its hard to catch us all, usually the only people prosecuted are people making it a business still at the least my cable company will ban you it they catch you file sharing, so I had to do something.
    But to get back to the topic at hand I do agree downloading Torrents is Bad, some sort of monetary compensation should go to all the great artist that make all this content, whether its games, movies, music, programs, etc.
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