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Ignoring advice and bricking

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by , 09-30-2010 at 08:12 AM (3871 Views)
Introduction
As some frequent visitors around here know, I like to hang around in the newbie section and the bricked section. I have read about many bricks and always tried offering help where I could.

But there is one thing that is bothering me. Really bothering me. Although there are some bricks that were impossible to avoid (e.g. hardware failures), most of the bricks I see could have been prevented, just by following advice.

This got me thinking. Why do people ignore advice? Do they believe that they won't brick? Do they think that bricking is something that happens rarely? Do they not see any harm in what they are doing (surely, there is no way you could brick your wii by updating through Nintendo, right? Right?)? Or maybe, they are unaware of our advices to prevent bricking: Brick Prevention- Things you should never do.

Whatever the reason, I feel that it is necessary to turn people's attention towards this. This is the very reason I decided to make this blog post. In this post, I will take some of the advices we give and links to threads of people who bricked by ignoring (or not being aware of) the advice we gave.

Example nr. 1 - Bricking by updating through Nintendo
As first example, I take bricking by updating through Nintendo. This is because most people seem to believe that updating through Nintendo is a good thing. This is wrong. Most of the time, updates through Nintendo are completely unnecessary (updating beyond 4.1 does not at any feature at all). Furthermore, updating through Nintendo often makes it more difficult to softmod. And worst of all you could brick.

So, here is a list of people who bricked their wii by updating through Nintendo:


Example nr. 2 - Theming
Some people theme their wii, to make it look more to their taste. Theming might seem harmless, but it isn't. You can brick you wii by theming it. In fact, theme bricks are quite common (it took me almost no time to find examples). So just stay off theming, it isn't worth the risk.



Example nr. 3 - Pimpmywii
Pimpmywii is a program which automatically update you. According to the description of a site (the source will NOT be mentioned, because I do not want people to use it, it is from a post here on wiihacks ):
The program will detect missing or outdated IOS and check that you have the latest version of the Wii System Menu. It also checks if you have the latest versions of BC, MIOS and those channels : Wii Shop, News, Weather, Mii, Photo and Photo 1.1.

If you don't have the latest versions of those titles, this program will download them, or read them from USB or SD to install them. When using this program, you will have all advantages from 4.1 cumulated from those of 3.2, and this without drawbacks!
Sounds good, doesn't it? It sounds almost to good to be true. And that is because it isn't. From what I have read, basically, pimpmywii will update your IOS' (even though this might not be needed) and update you to 4.3 (remember what we said about updating?). It will also install cios38 rev19, while rev17 is recommended because it is more stable. Long story short, pimpmywii will probably give you trouble.



And that's it for today. Maybe I will add to this post later. Feel free to leave a comment if you wish to add anything (saves me work :P).

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  1. sgibson1980's Avatar
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    Well put....
  2. SarimsterX's Avatar
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    We needed this. Badly. Ah, and I know what you mean about BrickMyWii, No matter how many warnings you give people will use it. Then, they will complain that thier wii is messed up and another site said it's ok to use it. *sigh* Anyways, Nice Job!
  3. Stomp_442's Avatar
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    Here is my take on this:

    Example nr. 1 - Bricking by updating through Nintendo
    updating is completely unnecessary, newer games will work with older system menus
    example - if a game installs 4.2, it will work on 3.2

    Example nr. 2 - Theming
    Don't even mess with themes, unless you have BootMii installed as Boot2
    BootMii installed as IOS will not save you

    Example nr. 3 - Pimpmywii
    Updates your IOS's and installs missing IOS's, again, completely unnecessary.
    IOS's do not need to be updated, period.
    Any missing IOS can be manually installed.
  4. Darkcide666's Avatar
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    I'll agree with everything but pimpmywii. It doesn't automatically choose or update anything for you. It just compares you installed IOS and cIOS against the current rev and allows you to manually update them if you choose to. The key being choose to. You can pick, choose, and skip whatever you want. There is lots of potential for error from people that don't understand what they are doing but it will not automatically brick your wii. It still requires user error like most everything else.
  5. Bliepo's Avatar
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    @Stomp_442: I totally agree with you except about theming. I wouldn't even mess with theme even with bootmii as boot2. Sure, themes may look nice, but in my expierence, they all to often have issues (for example, text is not really readable).
    @Darkcide666: I partially agree with you, but my main concern is that pimpmywii is advertised as a program that will automagically fix things with a push of a button, without drawbacks. An inexpierenced user will think the app is totally safe, while it isn't.
  6. narse1979's Avatar
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    PimpMyWii- Took a look at it this morning - Crude is all I have to say - In the same bag as any_title_deleter
  7. Darkcide666's Avatar
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    I'm not saying Pimpmywii is the most elegant or sophisticated program. It's kind of a lazy persons tool. But the way people talk about it on here some without ever using it or understanding the program boggles my mind. Just like any hacking activity or program it bears certain risks especially to those that do not know the full ramifications or understand the concept of what they are doing. It seems to me that most problems on here and other sites are caused by some form of human error but it's in most peoples nature to blame a program or something else for their own fail. It's by far easier to blame something else, especially with a lack of knowledge or understanding, than it is to stand up and say, "I don't know what I'm doing and screwed up somehow.".
  8. billyhome's Avatar
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    attention ! attention ! attention !
    a big gift for all future white-brick-owners.
  9. mauifrog's Avatar
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    Daddy said "Son, use a condom. Trust me, it is best". Now I have three kids.
  10. EpicGamer's Avatar
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    Lol nice one maui
  11. goossens's Avatar
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    If I understand correctly, when softmodding, if I donīt do anything wrong, I can still irrecoverably brick my Wii. Any idea on the chance of that happening? 30%? 10%? 1%?
  12. goossens's Avatar
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    If I understand correctly, when softmodding, if I donīt do anything wrong, I can still irrecoverably brick my Wii. Any idea on the chance of that happening? 30%? 10%? 1%?